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Let's hope this grows legs. What has to be covered is an endless leftist wish list of utterly non-scientific cr@p.
1 posted on 08/31/2022 1:37:04 PM PDT by fwdude
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At $25k annual premiums, it ain’t free — in fact, very far from free.


2 posted on 08/31/2022 1:41:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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“its authors cited three overarching goals: to improve access to health care, to slow rising medical costs and to improve health outcomes.”

...uh...no. The overarching goals were to control health= control the people. Or lack thereof I should say.


3 posted on 08/31/2022 1:42:27 PM PDT by albie
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I am very thankful for Obamacare. I was one of the few that could not get insurance..and would have been royally screwed with what came next for me in my health journey

Just finding out you have a very rare auto antibody took many many thousands of dollars.

Quest Lab does not provide discounts to people who dont have insurance. I had a test from Mayo that was almost $2000. The insurance company knocked it down 50%...but without insurance it would have been $2000 because it was done through Quest. Just an example.

For those that don’t want to buy Obamacare there is the Christian health ministry plans. I use one to cover my deductible. They have never denied a claim.

Ultalabs is running a sale on labs. I pay for them myself rather than fight with Doctors to get certain tests.


4 posted on 08/31/2022 1:47:56 PM PDT by RummyChick
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If the insurance company has to pay for it then the insurance buyer (whether individual or employer) has to pay for it plus a markup. The main advantage of the insurance company being involved is that they can contract for a certain price and avoid the ridiculous hospital list price. I had surgery for a list price of $24k, contract price of $8k with my portion being $2k of that. The insurance company paid $6000 (which was about my total premium for the year) but negotiated away $16,000.

If I could get the insurance company contracted rate for everything I might be willing to get a $10,000 deductible policy for catastrophic illness, but the government in their infinite wisdom says no, I cannot get that policy. Instead I must get one where I pay the insurance company to handle wellness visits.

5 posted on 08/31/2022 1:53:55 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The government sees you as either livestock or pet. If things get bad they will eat their pets too.)
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“Free” - that should be in quotes, for realz.


14 posted on 08/31/2022 2:56:59 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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But this will get repealed when repubs take over in 22 right?.....


15 posted on 08/31/2022 2:57:52 PM PDT by fruser1
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When Congress passed the Affordable Care Act in 2010, its authors cited three overarching goals: to improve access to health care, to slow rising medical costs and to improve health outcomes.

I got stuck right there. Congress better stop making goals for their programs. They NEVER meet their goals. The vast majority of time they make matters worse.

19 posted on 08/31/2022 3:08:32 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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When Congress passed the Affordable Care Act in 2010, its authors cited three overarching goals: to improve access to health care, to slow rising medical costs and to improve health outcomes.

What a pack of lies!

25 posted on 08/31/2022 5:12:07 PM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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