UPDATE 2-Ukraine says long-anticipated southern offensive has begun

Reuters via Yahoo ^ | August 29th, 2022 | by Max Hunder

[Mariner]

KYIV, Aug 29 (Reuters) - The Ukrainian military on Monday started a long-awaited counter-offensive against Russian forces in the country's south, its southern command said on Monday.

Command spokesperson Natalia Humeniuk confirmed the offensive in a news briefing and said it included the Kherson region.

Ukraine has regularly stated its intention to retake its south, and in particular the city of Kherson, the only regional capital that Russia has been able to capture from Ukraine since it invaded six months ago.

The region lies north of the Russian-held Crimean peninsula and has coasts on the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov.

[Mariner]

Ukraine has said in the past that due to the nature of modern warfare it won't look like actions from the past and we may not recognize it.

Which, when translated, means it won't be an offensive at all and will not take any territory from Russia.

[tlozo]

Which, when translated, means it won't be an offensive at all and will not take any territory from Russia.

LOL, sure because when Russia retreats, like from Kyiv, its not a retreat but a 'gesture of goodwill to create favorable conditions for Russia-Ukraine talks'.

The withdrawal of Russian forces from Kyiv region is a gesture of goodwill to create favourable conditions for Russia-Ukraine talks, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told France's LCI broadcaster

https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/russian-withdrawal-from-kyiv-region-gesture-of-goodwill-kremlin-122040601591_1.html

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Both sides have basically exhausted their high-speed, mechanized maneuver elements. So any Russian offensive or Ukrainian counter-offensive isn't going to look like a modern mech offensive.

The Ukrainians are going to take advantage of the Russian strategic disadvantage of having an unsupportable bridgehead over the Dnieper. It doesn't have to be fast or pretty because the river itself puts the Russians in a very poor position. A Ukrainian counteroffensive is likely to be slow and painstaking, but also almost inevitably successful. It just doesn't make sense for the Russians to keep hanging on to a salient that is indefensible long term.

[NorseViking]

Ukie insiders post that Kiev withdrawal was agreed during Istanbul talks as part of a deal where Ukraine recognizes Donbas and Lugansk as independent and it is all over. Then Johnson pressed them to disobey agreement.

[NorseViking]

BS. You obviously don’t have the grasp of the situation.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

And you obviously can’t read a map.

[NorseViking]

Of course I can. The fake offensive takes place since early April.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

The fake offensive takes place since early April.

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, or what it has to do with the inherent geographic vulnerabilities of the Kherson salient, which aren't going to change.

[adorno]

Which, when translated, means it won't be an offensive at all and will not take any territory from Russia.

Thank for providing the Russian translation for us.

We had no idea what the Ukrainians meant.

[achilles2000]

You are hilarious. Do you think all the bridges are unusuable? HIMARS causes roadway potholes, not structural damage. The potholes are easily fixed. Do you think there are no poontoon bridges on transport planes? The LPR and DPR militias are far more trained than the mostly territorial units the UFA has left, and any advance toward the Russian lines is across the steppes. If the UFA did that, you can bet your bottom dollar the UFA had it’s head handed to it by RF artillery, rockets, TOS1 and 2, and aircraft. Here’s what a Russian source says:

“When the Khokhol is not cut for a very long time, he himself rushes to the knife.

Brief description of today’s Ukrainian counteroffensive.

Ukraine has suffered major casualties today”

The real story is more likely that the Russians are putting Nikolaev in a cauldron.

[TangoLimaSierra]

Ukraine has said in the past that due to the nature of modern warfare it won't look like actions from the past and we may not recognize it.

And when the Ukes throw down their weapons and march toward the Russians with their hands in the air, it means Ukraine has won another glorious battle.

[lump in the melting pot]

Of course Ukraine won’t be taking any territory from Russia. They’ll just be taking *back* their own territory which Russia illegally invaded and occupied.

[Cathi]

Ministry of Defense of Russia
⚡️ Today, during the day, on the direct instructions of V. Zelensky, Ukrainian troops attempted an offensive in Mykolaiv and Kherson regions in three directions.

◽️As a result of the active defense of the grouping of Russian troops, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered heavy losses. During the fighting, 26 Ukrainian tanks, 23 infantry fighting vehicles, nine other armored fighting vehicles were destroyed, two Su-25 attack aircraft were shot down. Enemy losses in manpower amounted to more than 560 servicemen. Another attempt at offensive actions by the enemy failed miserably.

@mod_russia
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[CarolinaReaganFan]

you probably got that right.
finally , the long long long awaited twitter Kherson offensive has begun. unlikely to capture territory this is intended to disrupt the upcoming referendum.

[cranked]

“Today, during the day, on the direct instructions of V. Zelensky, Ukrainian troops attempted an offensive in the Mykolaiv and Kherson regions in three directions.

As a result of the active defense of the grouping of Russian troops, the AFU units suffered heavy losses.

During the fighting, 26 Ukrainian tanks, 23 infantry fighting vehicles, nine other armored combat vehicles were destroyed, two Su-25 attack aircraft were shot down.

The enemy’s losses in manpower amounted to more than 560 servicemen. Another attempt at offensive actions of the enemy failed miserably.” - RuMoDsaid

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/europes-economic-and-social-suicide-provoked-by-the-us-and-helped-along-by-europes-leaders.html#more

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

Don’t
Care
.

Stop spending my grandkids money there!!!!

[cranked]

And more confirmation:

‘Russia Repels Ukraine Attacks in Kherson, Advances Kodema & Donetsk; EU Continues Slide into Crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtEWFaYFs8c

‘Ukraine SITREP: the promised “major Ukrainian counter-attack” ends in disaster’
http://thesaker.is/ukraine-sitrep-the-promised-major-ukrainian-counter-attack-ends-in-disaster/

[Apparatchik]

There goes Cut-and-Paste Cathi again, acting as the press agent for the Russian MoD.

Is there anything she won’t do for them?