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To: Mariner
Which, when translated, means it won't be an offensive at all and will not take any territory from Russia.

LOL, sure because when Russia retreats, like from Kyiv, its not a retreat but a 'gesture of goodwill to create favorable conditions for Russia-Ukraine talks'.

The withdrawal of Russian forces from Kyiv region is a gesture of goodwill to create favourable conditions for Russia-Ukraine talks, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told France's LCI broadcaster

https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/russian-withdrawal-from-kyiv-region-gesture-of-goodwill-kremlin-122040601591_1.html

2 posted on 08/29/2022 8:30:29 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

Ukie insiders post that Kiev withdrawal was agreed during Istanbul talks as part of a deal where Ukraine recognizes Donbas and Lugansk as independent and it is all over. Then Johnson pressed them to disobey agreement.


4 posted on 08/29/2022 8:33:40 AM PDT by NorseViking
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