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People who read easily and well use the "whole word method", for words and material that is familiar to them.

For words they don't know, they spell out the word, phonetically.

And for new readers, all words are words they don't know.

Doesn't seem that complicated...

1 posted on 08/27/2022 12:09:27 PM PDT by jdege
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I think there is a strong correlation between people who cannot read and people who vote for Democrats. I think the plan is working.


2 posted on 08/27/2022 12:14:37 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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I just came across my copies of “Why Johnny Can’t Read”, and “Why Johnny Still Can’t Read” as I cleaned out a bookcase this week. I taught my kids to read with Sam Blumenthal’s “Alphaphonics”. I wish I still had it; I’d use it with my grand kids. I’m not sure if it’s still published but I highly recommend it for anyone with kids learning to read. It’s a painless, natural way to learn to read the English language.


3 posted on 08/27/2022 12:17:25 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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I pay PROPERTY TAX and therefore it makes sense for me to send my kids to a bunch of teachers who can’t teach reading, in order to get my money’s worth.


4 posted on 08/27/2022 12:18:22 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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I used phonics in the early 60s


5 posted on 08/27/2022 12:18:37 PM PDT by wardaddy (Lawyers guns and money……I lived it…. Now I'm old…. I have wonderful children)
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It’s hard to believe but most of the founding fathers had no formal education, or were home schooled.

Washington was completely self taught.

These men who seem in hindsight to have been some of smartest ever to live. It’s hard to believe.


6 posted on 08/27/2022 12:18:58 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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You have to order Hooked on Phonics and do it yourself now


7 posted on 08/27/2022 12:23:04 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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My older sister brought home one of those charts that show the different letters of the alphabet and how they sound in different words. She was in first grade and I was in kindergarten.

We copied those charts over and over, with drawings and crayons. One day someone gave us an old window shade, which made it possible to do a spectacular letter chart that looked just like the ones in school. Wow!

By the time I got to first grade I could read. The teacher caught me reading at the back of the book and said something like “You can’t read that yet. Go back to the page we are on.” Of course I said “Yes I can.” The result was that she she trotted me into the second-grade classroom and I could their book too, and then the third-grade book.

I’m not posting this to show off, because it was not me who did it. It was the people who gave beginning readers phonics, rather than making them memorize each word individually.


12 posted on 08/27/2022 12:34:59 PM PDT by firebrand ( )
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You are incorrect. “Whole word” reading is a myth unless the written language is pictographic.

Phonetic languages should be taught phonetically because that’s what the symbols represent and how the human brain will best organize them.

What people assume is “whole word” reading is actually automaticity similar to muscle memory. The well taught and practiced brain will organize itself so that the very familiar words are recognized so rapidly that it appears they are read whole.

But if you actually try to teach reading this way and skip the phonetics, the brain will not be able to organize the sound/symbol relationships as well and automaticity will be delayed and in some cases prevented leaving poor readers forever trying to haltingly de-cypher the words on the page.

Many people’s thinking skills reflect their disorganized reading (and thus writing) skills, which is a heavy contributor to the current social mess.


13 posted on 08/27/2022 12:36:23 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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Not opposed to teaching phonics. But, it takes more than that. English is a composite language with many pronunciation irregularities.

Lead & Lead: to guide & a soft heavy metal. Same spelling - difficult pronunciation.

Different spellings but same pronunciation:

To, too, two

Which & Witch

Whole books are written dealing with these inconsistencies.

14 posted on 08/27/2022 12:36:45 PM PDT by sjmjax
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So,,,Dick and Jane books were not phonetic, iirc.
Generations learned how to read from them.


17 posted on 08/27/2022 12:58:32 PM PDT by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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People who read easily and well use the "whole word method", for words and material that is familiar to them.

Perhaps we do. Sometimes, like when the words are on a road sign and too far away to resolve the individual letters.

Your theory does not explain that misspellings immediately jamp uot to the eyos of good reeders. Your theory also does NOT EXPLAIN OUR EASE OF READING ALL CAPITAL LETTER words, which all have the same shape.

Misspellings and all caps used deliberately, as exemplars of my point, which is that even the most experienced readers are still looking at and evaluating individual letters, not just word shapes.

19 posted on 08/27/2022 1:05:03 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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There is no substitution for phonics.


22 posted on 08/27/2022 1:11:27 PM PDT by caver
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I don’t think phonics or whole word teaching has anything to so with it. Take a look at those not up to standard and you will find they are mostly of one race. And even the race has nothing to do with it.

It has to do with the families from which these children come. I’ve read that over 70% of them are born to single mothers and have no father figure in their life. They live is dysfunctional homes where there is no respect for authority, no discipline, no appreciation for learning.


25 posted on 08/27/2022 1:24:07 PM PDT by elpadre (W )
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Bookmark


26 posted on 08/27/2022 1:27:52 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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Johnny cannot read because Shaniqua is a shitty teacher who likely cannot read herself.


27 posted on 08/27/2022 1:29:22 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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How is it that e.g. Japan and China have done so well without “phonics”, since their languages cannot be read any way but “whole word”?


28 posted on 08/27/2022 1:33:26 PM PDT by Little Pig
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I think it’s hilarious that if you spell “phonetically” phonetically you’ll spell it wrong.

English, it’s a messed up language, there really are no good ways to learn it, good luck.


30 posted on 08/27/2022 1:36:04 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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My mom was a 1st through 3rd grade reading teacher.

In the early 80’s, the school district where she worked decided to switch from phonics to sight reading.

Mom went to war and she won!


34 posted on 08/27/2022 1:40:09 PM PDT by lizma2
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I learned with the Dick and Jane books and never found it difficult. We read the words out loud and wrote them out. We compared sounds when reading down a list of words. We did a lot of reading out loud in elementary school. For instance, we went around the room and everybody took a turn reading a paragraph from a third grade textbook about living on a farm.


37 posted on 08/27/2022 1:44:33 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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Hooked on phentanyl.


44 posted on 08/27/2022 1:59:53 PM PDT by moovova
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