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To: Widget Jr

you appear to be one of the most misinformed people that i’ve seen on FR. The Rus territory capture rate has been steady and they have captured a bit of territory in the last two weeks around Kherson. About 300 sq mi remains to be captured in donetsk. and the Rus are getting 1-4 towns/week plus about 5 sq mi/week. so it’s about 60 more weeks to get donetsk if ukes lines don’t collapse and if they can survive winter. the Rus don’t follow a calendar - they minimize their own losses.


11 posted on 08/27/2022 9:08:46 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: CarolinaReaganFan
Three points.

First, Ukraine has asked for a news black out going on around Kherson. The major news and OSINT are keeping quite about what Ukrainian operations in Kherson to avoid tipping off Russia.

Second, Russia lies. Russia state TV, Z Slava telegram channels, shills like Douglas Macgregor, Gonzalo Lira and Scott Ritter, lie about everything all the time. A few days after two French Caesar howitzers arrived in Ukraine, Russia claimed they captured them from behind the lines and flew them a thousand miles into Russia overnight.

Every time Ukraine hits Russia and makes it hurt, Russia gets in the last word by denying what Ukraine did and claiming they hurt Ukraine even more. When Russia gets in the last word, they are lying.

Third, what the internet says does not reflect what is happening on the ground all that well. Up in Donestk, say for example there is a kilometer between the lines. Russia claims to have advanced 300 meters. They can put out press releases and, everyone updates their online maps, lots of posts on forums are made. The actual territory controlled by either side has not changed. After taking Servodonestk and Lysychansk, Russian efforts to take Donestk have slowed and are nearing a stand still as far as the Ukrainian defenders are concerned.

In the south, Ukraine is going for Kherson and looking like they are getting ready to take back Crimea. For the outcome of the war, that is more important than anything else right now.

13 posted on 08/27/2022 10:59:10 AM PDT by Widget Jr (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Slava Ukraine πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan
"you appear to be one of the most misinformed people that I've seen on FR."
All of us are misinformed about the war in Ukraine. Lies and exaggerations are on both sides. Read everything with your tongue in your cheek. The truth lies 45 degrees away from anything stated/promoted on the Internet. People believe what they want to believe.
14 posted on 08/27/2022 4:20:53 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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