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The Biggest Fans of California’s No-Gas Policy? Ford and GM.
Barron's ^ | August 25, 2022 | Al Root

Posted on 08/25/2022 4:44:32 PM PDT by karpov

California has moved to ban sales of carbon dioxide-emitting vehicles by 2035. That is fine in theory but it raises two questions: Can we? And should we?

The answer from the tradition auto industry might surprise many investors. It’s a resounding yes to both.

The auto industry’s relationship with the California Air Resources Board, or CARB, hasn’t always been, well, as agreeable. The relationship is littered with fines for noncompliant vehicles and litigation related to emissions standards. Back in 2001, General Motors challenged CARB emission regulations in court.

These days, the auto industry and CARB appear to be in lockstep. Ford Motor issued a statement following the announcement that CARB was moving to eliminate gasoline-powered cars. “At Ford , combating climate change is a strategic priority, and we’re proud of our partnership with California,” said Bob Holycross, chief sustainability officer at Ford. “We’re committed to building a zero-emissions transportation future that includes everyone, backed by our own investments of more than $50 billion by 2026 in EVs and batteries.”

(Excerpt) Read more at barrons.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: automotive; california; cars; electricvehicles; ford; gm
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Ford and GM have stopped investing in new lines of gasoline-powered cars and trucks and will lobby to ban cars they don't produce. Toyota is still investing in gasoline-powered vehicles. I will prefer a Japanese car to an American EV that GM and Ford try to push on me. Many Toyotas are made in the U.S. anyway. Republicans should tell Ford and GM not to expect a bailout (including an indirect bailout through an EV mandate) if they stop making cars and trucks people want.
1 posted on 08/25/2022 4:44:32 PM PDT by karpov
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I’m speculating that this will turn out like Obamacare and Solar.


2 posted on 08/25/2022 4:46:59 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: karpov

They sold their souls and sold us out.


3 posted on 08/25/2022 4:48:04 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: karpov

Oil industry tax take will take a very big hit


4 posted on 08/25/2022 4:48:22 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: karpov

One of Toyota’s top executives has said we do not yet have the technology for all electric fleets. Considering gas is 100 times more energy dense than the best batteries he’s right.


5 posted on 08/25/2022 4:48:26 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: karpov

Fed gov didn’t manage to force us to buy insurance, and the power of the insurance companies couldn’t either. Why would the car companies be able to do it now?


6 posted on 08/25/2022 4:49:07 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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Even Elon Musk has said we can’t support going all EVs right away.


7 posted on 08/25/2022 4:50:14 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: karpov

A Deal was made and Ford/GM will get all the bailouts they want


8 posted on 08/25/2022 4:50:31 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: FreedomPoster

Even Elon Musk has said we can’t support going all EVs right away.

I don’t care I just don’t want to submit to these Terrorists because they’ll NEVER STOP


9 posted on 08/25/2022 4:52:17 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: karpov

Battery powered cars are bullshit from a true cost/gain perspective, even with extrapolated/anticipated battery technology for the time being.

No amount of state propaganda will change that.


10 posted on 08/25/2022 4:54:41 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: AlmaKing

How does a family go on vacation, driving to the Grand Canyon or Mt. Ranier? Every 300 miles you have to charge for six hours. Shave four days off your round trip just for charging.


11 posted on 08/25/2022 4:55:17 PM PDT by blackdog (Cooler King Joe, killing a winning nation every day. )
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To: HighSierra5

Right. When I heard they were starting to sink loads of money into EV research a few years ago and the Feds were helping with encouragement funding, I knew we were in deep trouble.

I say Ford and GM can shove their policy up their tailpipes.
Metaphorically speaking.


12 posted on 08/25/2022 4:55:52 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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So basically... CARB is regulating themselves out of a job.


13 posted on 08/25/2022 4:56:36 PM PDT by Skywise
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GM & Ford should also be told not to expect a bail out due to their practice of letting their dealers mark up prices exorbitantly over MSRP, and not advertising that mark up. I saw $25,000 cars being marked up to $45,000 last weekend.
14 posted on 08/25/2022 4:56:49 PM PDT by jpp113
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A very hard dose of reality is coming to America once we get Blackrock out of the oval office.


15 posted on 08/25/2022 4:57:05 PM PDT by blackdog (Cooler King Joe, killing a winning nation every day. )
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Even butanol fuel cell technology would more promising, but the game is selling out to China.


16 posted on 08/25/2022 4:57:22 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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I buy gas once every 2 or 3 weeks and only $30 so would I have to charge an EV everyday even if I don’t use it ?


17 posted on 08/25/2022 4:57:50 PM PDT by butlerweave
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“”a zero-emissions transportation future that includes everyone””

Everyone? Are they nuts? Or are they going to FORGIVE loans to buy these expensive electric vehicles and just give them away? The government pays the manufacturers with OUR MONEY?

CARB carries more weight in CA than the CA legislature just like the Coastal Commission. It takes a lot to fight each of them.


18 posted on 08/25/2022 4:57:52 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Skywise

The California Air Resources Board will simply change their charter to regulating ‘green’ vehicles.

The lefties have it all figured out.


19 posted on 08/25/2022 5:00:16 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: AlmaKing

“”I’m speculating that this will turn out like Obamacare and Solar.””

Any faults in either is being corrected in Biden’s Inflation Reduction bill - never worry!!!

Everyone just needs to keep chanting:

SOLYNDRA - SOLYNDRA - SOLYNDRA - anytime Biden is on stage ANYWHERE!


20 posted on 08/25/2022 5:00:28 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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