Posted on 08/20/2022 10:07:10 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Well actually, Russian soldiers use field rations which expired in 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfo7cNUazgE
What I found very odd Russian troops were ‘hospitalized with signs of severe poisoning’ after being stationed near the village of Vasilyevka in Zaporozhe Region on July 31 but not until Aug 20th?
More importantly considered a Russian false flag. “The Russian Ministry’s report did not say how many servicemen had suffered or what their condition was now. It did not say what the “supporting evidence” was.”
But, then again the Russian soldiers are shooting themselves in the leg etc. to get out of the war.
Botulinum toxin doesn’t form in contaminated meat, it needs an acidic and anaerobic environment to form like canned tomato paste. The form of botulism found here was apparently the purified form used in medicine for various things like Botox. So they were intentionally poisoned, and this article is just the typical Daily Mail propaganda.
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“Botulinum toxin doesn’t form in contaminated meat, it needs an acidic and anaerobic environment to form like canned tomato paste. The form of botulism found here was apparently the purified form used in medicine for various things like Botox. So they were intentionally poisoned, and this article is just the typical Daily Mail propaganda.”
Thanks, figured it was just more of their propaganda.
If anyone starts/commits, a false flag in Ukraine, it will be either desperate Ukraine or the gaslighting inching-for-a-fight the US and UK. Bet.
“If anyone starts/commits, a false flag in Ukraine, it will be either desperate Ukraine or the gaslighting inching-for-a-fight the US and UK.”
No, I disagree. Russia is the player tries to create chaos.
CONSIDER: The Russian pattern of “Transnistrian” policy controls ‘zones’ of frozen conflicts in Moldova (Transnistria region), Georgia (Abkhazia and South Ossetia), and in Ukraine annexed Crimean peninsula and the Donbas.
Russia uses this wider PATTERN of created separatist conflicts to create corruption and criminality as ‘Trojan horses’ to BLOCK progress in reform-minded periphery countries.
This is the Russian ‘TACTICAL’ part of their geopolitical strategy by creating conflict zones to prevent countries from entering NATO and integrating into the European Union.
CONFLICTS created by Russia is being part of the Russia imperialistic plan to REGAIN strategic points of its LOST EMPIRE.
Of course, This means Russia wants to fully separate occupied parts of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts from Ukraine and recognize its Donbas puppet republics as states sooner or later just like Georgia’s Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
Russia is winning.
Ukraine is losing.
Who would better be served by a false flag to bring NATO or the US/Uk into a fight against Russia on the side of Ukraine, RevMom?
Your logic is flawed. Severely.
Russia is winning.
Ukraine is losing.
I listen to your opinion. However, a false-flag is the linchpin for Putin strategy
Propaganda! My bet the Ukraine’s will use toxic gas—mustard or sarin on Russians and say the Russians did this to themselves to justify the use of WMDs. Or maybe, the Ukraine’s will use it on their own troops and say the Russians did it. That would cause the NATO people to bomb Russian airbases and send in the troops! Ukraine could therefore win the war! All it will take is a few thousand Poles or Germans to tip the balance until the whole US army arrives and wins the day for Ukraine—and start WW III in the process. Russia has wanted to test their new Tsar Bomb in Combat.
Maybe this will help the understanding for Russia’s ‘false flag’ of food poisoning:
“Botulism is a deadly food poisoning. The botulism bacteria — rod shaped under the microscope — grow best in anaerobic (absence of oxygen) conditions. Since the canning process forces air out of food, the C. botulinum bacteria may find incorrectly or minimally processed canned foods a good place to grow and produce the toxin.” - https://www.usda.gov/
NOTE: Botulism symptoms typically appear within 18 to 36 hours of eating the contaminated food, although it can be as soon as four hours and last up to eight days. [NOTE: Russian military had been stationed near the village of Vasilyevka in Zaporozhe Region on JULY 31st but NOT ILL until AUG 20th?
There are 3 types of naturally occurring botulism; each results from absorption of botulinum toxin into the bloodstream:
1. Foodborne botulism is caused by ingestion of food or drink containing botulinum toxin. Often this occurs when canned foods that are contaminated with C. botulinum are not adequately sterilized. The bacteria produce toxin while growing in the anaerobic interior of the can. Foodborne botulism could also result from intentional contamination of the food supply.
2. Wound botulism is the result of a deep, contaminated wound. C. botulinum can multiply and produce botulinum toxin in the anaerobic center of the wound, which is then absorbed into the bloodstream. Wound botulism has become more prevalent in recent years among intravenous drug users.
3. Intestinal botulism is the result of eating food contaminated with C. botulinum spores that then go on to produce botulinum toxin in the intestine. A healthy adult can consume a small number of C. botulinum spores without becoming sick.
“Normally, the bacterium exists in the environment as a dormant spore; however, in low oxygen (anaerobic) environments such as in CANNED FOODS, deep wounds, or the intestinal tract, the spores germinate into active bacteria, multiply, and produce toxin. C. botulinum produces 8 types of toxin (A through H), which are among the most potent toxins known.”
,,, Russia’s ability to assist the Communists in a war with Red China
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It is our own illegitimate occupation government that is in league with China. They have no need to wage war on us. They have occupied us by proxy.
Communism is alive and aggressively on the march within the entire AngloSphere & the EU. Their Chief Commissar is Klaus Schwab, who publicly brags of his infiltration of every Western nation to implement the totalitarian Great Reset.
China is proudly & openly communist.
North Korea, proudly and openly communist, is China’s attack poodle.
America and the West are also China’s attack poodle. All state in unison that they are implementing ‘the transition’.
Russia is no longer communist.
Russia has been provoked and is now opposed-by-proxy by the same Communistic alliance by which the AngloSphere & the EU are captured & directed.
Russia has told the world and the provocateurs that they know who they are. By name. The only threats have been toward those captured collaborators and their “decision centers’.
Russia trades with whomever will pay the price according to Russia’s terms. We trade with them covertly, as does the EU and the rest of the AngloSphere & China.
However, in trading with Russia, partners meet Russia’s terms, including China. Strength lies with whomever sets the terms.
It is the AngloSphere and the EU who impose sanctions and disrupt global supply chains.
Russia daily proves that they will not allow themselves to be threatened. They are standing and fighting such provocation. They have stated that they survived communism and its horrors and have no wish to return to it.
The current historical gesture is a totalitarian Global Communistic/Fascistic Cabal that has stated its intent to destroy _all_ humanity, beggar any survivors, and own the entire world, even if they have to destroy everything first. The only power opposing them is Russia and then only directly on its own border after massive provocation.
The US will not fight China. China owns the US.
The WEF-led alliance works to foment war between any & all their proxies and Russia. On the other side, 1/2 the global population stands with Russia against the monopolar world of the US Federal Reserve captured by the WEF and its vassals.
China does play at straddling the center. At the moment they need the WEF-controlled nations. Both attempt to use each other, as necessary.
Once the WEF-led totalitarians are rejected and defeated, there is no reason for the US & Russia to fight. They are no threat to us, only to our illegitimately installed occupation government. We are no threat to them, except for our current collaborationist government. Prior to Biden and his cadre, Russia and the US operated out of mutual respect. There was trade, investment, travel.
China might provoke Russia, but at the moment they are too weak and have too many other pressing distractions. They cannot control even their own country. They need Russia’s resources, cannot just appropriate them and, for now, trade according to Russia’s terms.
The invocation of a Russian-Chinese-North Korea allied war against the USA is a strawman.
We are deep into WWIII. It is 4th Generation Assymetric Information War and an alliance of the WEF-controlled governments and unelected international organizations against all non-elite humanity, regardless of nationality.
“Communism is alive and aggressively on the march within the entire AngloSphere & the EU.”
Thank you. I greatly appreciate your well-contructed and thoughtful comment.
Yeah, whatever.
Now do the part where it is not Russia.
It is us.
You do realize that the Red Chinese are supporting Putin, don’t you?
They play their own game. National alliances, trade, support for sovereignty are part of that and not indicative of a military alliance, let alone a common objective. Putin reiterated One china, too. That has nothing to do with what’s happening in Ukraine.
By the way, a bomb reportedly meant for Dugin might have gotten his daughter. Early reports only; too early for conclusions; accusations are against CIA/Ukraine.
BobL’s information is quite wrong regarding acidic environments and not in meat: “Low-acid foods are the most common sources of botulism linked to home canning. These foods have a pH level greater than 4.6. Low-acid foods include most vegetables (including asparagus, green beans, beets, corn, and potatoes), some fruits (including some tomatoes and figs), milk, all meats, fish, and other seafood.” from https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/home-canning-and-botulism.html#:~:text=The%20toxin%20is%20made%20most,containing%20it%20can%20be%20deadly.
Since the Russian troops were stationed in the area July 31st but did not get sick until Aug. 20, here is one possible source of illness. After about 2 weeks the soldiers used up or got tired of their MREs and went searching abandoned Ukraine homes and found abandoned home canned foods. Being young and inexperienced with evaluating such foods, the soldiers probably ate canned beans, corn, and other vegetables which were no longer safe, and began to get sick. Does anyone seriously think Russia would not try to blame deliberate poisoning with a form of bolulism available from technical sources, rather than admit their troops were hungry and ill fed, thus stealing food from homes?
“But, then again the Russian soldiers are shooting themselves in the leg etc. to get out of the war.”
Duane Allman did this to dodge the Vietnam war.
I think it was Greg.
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