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To: nascarnation

As I recall, the Maginot Line was not a success. Please correct me if I am wrong.


10 posted on 08/18/2022 1:30:25 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: erkelly

Well I’m not expecting the braceros to be equipped like the Wermacht blitzkrieg forces....


11 posted on 08/18/2022 1:31:45 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: erkelly

Actually, the Germans bypassed the Maginot line. So, in a way, it did work. It just needed to be longer


23 posted on 08/18/2022 1:48:38 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: erkelly

The Maginot line did “work”, to the degree that it reduced the number of men required to hold that part of the front line in 1940. France had a serious problem with manpower in 1940.

The real problem with the Maginot line is that it was not extended far enough north. The principal stretch of heavy fortifications ended just south of Sedan, which was where, not coincidentally, that the Germans broke through.

Had there been a series of “ouvrages” at Sedan, that would have, for one thing, reduced the effect of the Luftwaffe on the French artillery, and the guns of the ouvrages would have retained coverage of the Meuse crossing points, making it more difficult and costly to establish pontoon bridges. More and better bunkers would also have complicated the job of the German engineers in clearing the direct fire defenses, and the ouvrages and deeper bunker systems would also have been bones in the throat of the forces attempting to exploit beyond the Meuse bridgeheads. This all would have bought time for the French reserves to come up.


25 posted on 08/18/2022 1:50:23 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: erkelly

The Maginot line was a great defense, but the French forgot that a determined force could go around it.

If we have a border wall, strong enforcement at the airports, from ships and laws against employing, harboring, social services, renting homes, licensing them and codify into law that a citizen is someone born in the US to citizens. All others, are children of invaders. EXPEL THEM ALL.

This country is being overpopulated by INVADERS, not by Americans making families. Our roads are crowded because of INVADERS. Our power and water needs are stretched, because of INVADERS. Our schools are full and ineffective. Hospitals are overrun, and entire generations of American children do not know how to work, because of INVADERS hired by American farmers.

I picked berrys, beans, peas, and worked potatoes and haying fields. I was in grade school, and in high school. What is summer for? For kids to get into trouble now. It used to be how boys became men, and girls became women. As THEY used to take summer jobs too. Work at a cannery, shuck oysters, pick weeds.


34 posted on 08/18/2022 2:08:44 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: erkelly

Correct, because it was never completed to the ocean. The Germans went around it, through neighboring countries. Incomplete walls don’t work very well.


55 posted on 08/18/2022 2:57:32 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: erkelly

“As I recall, the Maginot Line was not a success.”

It’s pretty impressive when on site, especially the tank grabbers that still sit in some people’s yards. My dad’s outfit lost 10 tanks in a few minutes there in one engagement. You are correct that it didn’t change the outcome, though it did slow the advance down in that area.

All fixed positions are usually considered eventual losing propositions. Though Patton did give up on Metz and just moved on, leaving it there useless once he left. The trap of Metz was fighting with it.


63 posted on 08/18/2022 4:19:51 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: erkelly
As I recall, the Maginot Line was not a success. Please correct me if I am wrong.

As I understand it, the Maginot Line was a success everywhere it existed. The problem was that it was not extended far enough and it was bypassed. Sort of like the existing border wall.

67 posted on 08/18/2022 5:51:44 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: erkelly
It failed. Spectacularly.
68 posted on 08/19/2022 12:34:37 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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