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Elon Musk Sounds the Alarm on Russia-Ukraine War
The Street ^ | Aug 30, 2022 | Luc Olinga

Posted on 08/04/2022 6:10:10 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Like all of us, Musk needs a savior.


21 posted on 08/04/2022 6:36:51 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: AndyJackson

We have soldiers in Ukraine?


22 posted on 08/04/2022 6:38:21 PM PDT by Chgogal (No Green Policies until the Democrats hold China to the same standards.)
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To: Chgogal
No. So let's play a war game. You are the US. I am China. You want to save the Ukraine from Russia.

Your move.

23 posted on 08/04/2022 6:39:30 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Chgogal

Waiting....


24 posted on 08/04/2022 6:41:19 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

For what? We don’t have soldiers in Ukraine.


25 posted on 08/04/2022 6:43:11 PM PDT by Chgogal (No Green Policies until the Democrats hold China to the same standards.)
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To: Williams

Ok. You are a really smart non-isolationist. You suggest the next move to save the Ukraine from Russia. I will play China. Ready, set, go...


26 posted on 08/04/2022 6:44:01 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
He should concentrate on China, not Russia.
Can't do that. Aren't they (one sided) "trading partners"?
27 posted on 08/04/2022 6:44:21 PM PDT by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any one President in your lifetime.)
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To: Chgogal

You want to save Ukraine. It’s getting smashed by Russian artillery that obliterates everything in it’s path. Your move...


28 posted on 08/04/2022 6:44:54 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Chgogal
So, it’s okay for Russia to brutally invade a country?

No, but we are not the world's policeman. We certainly put up with Brezhnev etc. running half of Europe including Ukraine for decades not because we liked the idea, but because a military response would make things worse. It is not a matter of "letting" Putin take Ukraine (or more likely PART of Ukraine), any more than it was a matter of "letting" Idi Amin take Uganda, or brutal Communists take over Hong Kong, or letting 800,000 Hutus and Tutsis slaughter each other in Rwanda.

Heck, we can't even set Afghanistan on a better trajectory after 20 years.
29 posted on 08/04/2022 6:44:59 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: AndyJackson

I am saying what happens when Russia feels more expansionary, I.e. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia? Why does Finland and Sweden want to join NATO?


30 posted on 08/04/2022 6:45:34 PM PDT by Chgogal (No Green Policies until the Democrats hold China to the same standards.)
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To: Williams

Takes people quite some time to even figure out Afghanistan.

Ukraine is all about saving a penis flopping piano player.

How dare you bring rare earth minerals into it.


31 posted on 08/04/2022 6:45:34 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I agree with you, but the Russian of Ukraine is unacceptable. Now what.


32 posted on 08/04/2022 6:47:13 PM PDT by Chgogal (No Green Policies until the Democrats hold China to the same standards.)
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To: Chgogal

WE invaded Iraq, WE invaded Viet Nam, WE invaded Afghanistan no one said a damn thing about us invading Ukraine!!


33 posted on 08/04/2022 6:49:06 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

What does that have to do with Russia invading Ukraine?


34 posted on 08/04/2022 6:50:30 PM PDT by Chgogal (No Green Policies until the Democrats hold China to the same standards.)
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To: eyedigress

Why military aid to Ukraine doesn’t always get to the front lines: “Like 30% of it reaches its final destination”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-military-aid-weapons-front-lines/

BY ADAM YAMAGUCHI, ALEX PENA
AUGUST 4, 2022 / 7:04 AM / CBS NEWS


35 posted on 08/04/2022 6:50:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Chgogal

I thought that Commies in Nicaragua were unacceptable, and we helped the Contras a little bit, but the solution there was ultimately political (even so, Ortega still wound up back in power).

We wind up “accepting” a lot of things that are unacceptable, because there is no alternative. Red China being a dominant trading partner is unacceptable. Germany funding Russia while complaining about the invasion (and doing nothing on their end) is unacceptable.

If we are are not willing to declare war, and we shouldn’t be, there is a risk that we will wind up accepting the unacceptable, but only after $40 billion and who knows what else.


36 posted on 08/04/2022 6:51:18 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: Chgogal
We are talking Ukraine here. Musk called for saving Ukraine.

In terms of geo-strategy Baltic States or North Sea states are natural allies because they are maritime trading partners. We can reach them and supply them by sea. that is easy. Crossing Europe to fight on the Eurasian plains is a fools errand.

But the CHinese are hoping we fall for the globalist swindle, get bogged down trying to save the Ukraine while they take Taiwan and threaten evereyone else in the region who we can't do much about because we got bogged down in another impossible to get to place like we did in Afghanistan and before that what was it Bush Cheney did.

That's what geopolitics is about. Understand where you have strategic advantages because of geography and where you are at a deficit.

37 posted on 08/04/2022 6:51:40 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Chgogal

LOL, I bet you felt differently about invading Afghanistan in October, 2001.

I bet you had no problem about US vs Iraq in January 1991.


38 posted on 08/04/2022 6:54:28 PM PDT by Chgogal (No Green Policies until the Democrats hold China to the same standards.)
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To: AndyJackson

I am talking about Russia invading Ukraine. Is that acceptable?


39 posted on 08/04/2022 6:55:18 PM PDT by Chgogal (No Green Policies until the Democrats hold China to the same standards.)
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To: AndyJackson

I agree if you say “No”.

Next question, “Now what?”


40 posted on 08/04/2022 6:56:51 PM PDT by Chgogal (No Green Policies until the Democrats hold China to the same standards.)
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