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Russia says it has invited U.N., Red Cross experts to probe jail deaths
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Posted on 07/30/2022 4:52:02 PM PDT by navysealdad

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1 posted on 07/30/2022 4:52:02 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: navysealdad

This is satire right?


2 posted on 07/30/2022 4:53:17 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: rrrod

It’s propaganda. It might be true, it might not be.

And on the flipside statements like this are coming out from Zelinski and Ukraine.

Who to believe? What to believe?

I’ll tell you what to believe: believe your eyes and ears when you see an election in America being stolen in broad open daylight. Believe your eyes and ears when you see liberals with their hateful agenda openly destroying the fabric of America with little to no opposition. Believe your eyes and ears when you see tens of millions of illegal immigrants being welcomed into a country that cannot support them. Believe your eyes and ears when you see subcultures burning, looting and murdering as routinely as you or I may go to work or pay taxes.

I’ll tell you what to believe. Believe that Biden will likely get us into a hot war with either China or Russia, if not both.


3 posted on 07/30/2022 5:11:06 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Fake News. Might be true; but it’s designed to distort, mislead, brainwash and BS sheeple. )
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To: navysealdad

Neither organization has experts.


4 posted on 07/30/2022 5:12:44 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Responsibility2nd

I wish you were wrong...but the reality is we are on the edge.


5 posted on 07/30/2022 5:31:13 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: GingisK

My reaction.


6 posted on 07/30/2022 5:54:51 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Responsibility2nd

Already confirmed, Ukie POWs, shelled by Ukie artillery….the only “ rumor” is Himar missile fragments have been identified. Two noted journalists in Donetsk have already given statements.

One had interviewed a Ukie POW that had many really bad things to say about Zelensky and their lack of training ,ammo and losses. Stay tuned, Mercouris also just reported it.


7 posted on 07/30/2022 6:42:51 PM PDT by delta7
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Already confirmed, Ukie POWs, shelled by Ukie artillery

Thank you delta7 for sharing the official Russian talking points and propaganda.

Now take a look at the satellite images. No debris, doesn't look anything like a HIMARS missile strike. And the flimsy metal roof is still on the building. That's not what happens if any kind of artillery hits a building.

Before:

After:

Sure looks like a bomb set off inside of the building.

8 posted on 07/30/2022 7:51:03 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: delta7

Zel will have to pay the piper when the Azov guys on his side of the line figure out that High Heels used his HIMARs to shut a few Azov POW mouths...


9 posted on 07/30/2022 8:36:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: delta7
Already confirmed, Ukie POWs, shelled by Ukie artillery….the only “ rumor” is Himar missile fragments have been identified. Two noted journalists in Donetsk have already given statements.

Looks like a four-fer.


10 posted on 07/30/2022 8:48:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: freeandfreezing

Now take a look at the satellite images. No debris, doesn’t look anything like a HIMARS missile strike. And the flimsy metal roof is still on the building. That’s not what happens if any kind of artillery hits a building.


Obviously. Demented and disturbed Putinists will spin their gaslighting fairy tales as always but clearly what we have here is another mass murder of POW in the finest Russian tradition. We’ve seen this movie before. Sadly, many times.


11 posted on 07/30/2022 8:53:21 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: kiryandil

Post from Ukrainian site with a contact in the President’s Office

Resident
⚡️⚡️ ⚡️#Inside
Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President sent an appeal to the State Department and the EU with a call to recognize the missile attack on the colony in Yelenovka as a terrorist act. At Bankova, they want to get the United States to recognize Russia as a sponsor of terrorism in order to strengthen sanctions.

Resident
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken is afraid to recognize the Russian Federation as a state sponsor of terrorism, - The New York Times.

Despite the fact that the US Senate adopted the relevant resolution, the head of the American diplomatic department is worried that this will complicate diplomatic relations with Russia, even at a minimal level.

Resident
#InsideOur
source in the OP said that Bankova was disappointed with the position of the Pentagon, because of statements that the shelling of Yelenovka could have been done by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the position of the State Department on recognizing Russia as a sponsor of terrorism.
The Pentagon admitted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine “inadvertently” struck at the pre-trial detention center in Yelenovka.

According to media reports, a high-ranking Pentagon official said at a briefing that if Kyiv struck a pre-trial detention center in Yelenovka, where Ukrainian prisoners of war died, then this was done unintentionally.

“If it was a blow from the Ukrainian side, I assure you, they didn’t want to do it,” he said.


12 posted on 07/31/2022 12:44:28 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: navysealdad

Russia propaganda is even not good for a laugh.


13 posted on 07/31/2022 3:41:20 AM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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thanks,
What is OP? (Original Poster ??)
Have you seen any US source for that Pentagon statement?


14 posted on 07/31/2022 5:42:48 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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OP is Office of the President.

The quote came from a Pentagon press conference. I did not bother looking for an “American” source because I read this Ukrainian website multiple times a day and despite the author being Ukrainian it is an excellent, accurate source. Because they have “a contact in the OP” it provides great insight and I have never found one single thing that they reported that turned out to be untrue. (Wish I could say that about American sources.)

By the way, yesterday Kirby when asked about the attack at his press conference said that the U.S. “did not have intelligence” so they were unable to provide information on the attack.


15 posted on 07/31/2022 5:59:01 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: delta7

The only thing confirmed here is that you are a Putin-loving mental midget.


16 posted on 07/31/2022 8:42:44 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: freeandfreezing

Dang that looks frighteningly close to Belzec or Treblinka.

In other words, typically RuSSian.


17 posted on 07/31/2022 8:43:42 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: delta7

Anyone who has ever seen the aftermath of a HIMARS or M270 strike knows that no HIMARS ever came near this area. If it had, there would be large blast holes in the ground, burnt trees, blackened soil, and buildings reduced to obliterated, smoking hulks.

That small amount of damage to one tiny building is certainly not from ANY major artillery system, let alone the cluster munitions of HIMARS.


18 posted on 07/31/2022 8:50:01 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: Cathi

Kirby?
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us media not covering - what a surprise.....
quote is accurate. although i didn’t see the exact quote- lengthy. the press release is archived on the defense dept website
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3110921/senior-defense-official-and-senior-military-official-hold-a-background-briefing/


19 posted on 07/31/2022 8:52:59 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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Not forgetting also, the himars fragments presented in photo stills (on a wooden bench) have been shown as evidence for two completely different accusations in two completely different locations.

In other words they’re stock photos, recycled, and not from the scene of the attack.


20 posted on 07/31/2022 9:09:11 AM PDT by MalPearce
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