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Dr. Deborah Birx: I knew shots would not prevent COVID infection
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Posted on 07/23/2022 9:09:01 PM PDT by MNDude

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To: Deaf Smith

Interesting.

How many of these RN’s were not retired?

How many lost a job over their vax stance?

How many are still employed at the same place?

What have they told you about what they have seen?

I realize you probably lost contact with most of them if you had to give up a job that brought you in contact with them, but maybe you have run into a few at the bank or grocery store.


41 posted on 07/23/2022 10:06:57 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

Why? Because I think that many posters here are terrorizing the people just as badly as the government has done?

Get off your high horse, and understand that not everyone sees things exactly as you do - and understand that what you post here isn’t ‘saving the world’ (in case you’re under that delusion.)


42 posted on 07/23/2022 10:08:24 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: minnesota_bound

She is like a nazi bragging about the final solution.
She gets a huge pension and a book deal as a reward.

___________________________

I hold out some small hope that she has turned state’s evidence and that her book is the first part of the public confession she is required to make as well as a warning to others that they need to think about making a deal as well.


43 posted on 07/23/2022 10:10:38 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: CheshireTheCat
Only two were retired.

The others were of Child Bearing age which was a factor.

There will be no further contact and I will not know their work status.

44 posted on 07/23/2022 10:14:35 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Jamestown1630

Is reporting truth or alternative viewpoints equivalent to terrorism now?? Oh, that’s not fear mongering is it??


45 posted on 07/23/2022 10:16:13 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (time is short and getting shorter)
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To: Jamestown1630

Furthermore, if you’re bothered that much, you can stop logging on. Try avoiding the government. To suggest some kind of equivalence between posts you don’t like and government tyranny is just a bit off base don’t you think??


46 posted on 07/23/2022 10:21:17 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (time is short and getting shorter)
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To: MNDude

Lol send in your silly adjusted reasonings .. pic.twitter.com/jSGLSHDqAo— Jodie Abacus (@JodieAbacus) July 23, 2022


47 posted on 07/23/2022 10:23:36 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

There are plenty posts here that attempt to terrorize.

(And a rational opinion or viewpoint isn’t posted with the personal and obnoxious hostility of your 40.)

I will continue to post here, because I know there are still plenty of rational, balanced people who frequent the forum.

Good Night!


48 posted on 07/23/2022 10:27:41 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

It’s a blessing that you are at peace and satisfied to be blissfully misinformed. Different from uninformed, you have been presented with false information as truth, and you choose to believe it. Feel free to be self righteous. Just because you haven’t suffered consequences of an mRNA jab , falsely presented as a vaccine, doesn’t mean that you get to choose your facts to tell us the rest of us are wrong.

I am not a vaccine denier. The mRNA jabs are not traditional vaccines. In spite of changing the definition, these injections offer ZERO immunity. Even the people who gave you all the misinformation you choose to believe have now stated that fact.


49 posted on 07/23/2022 10:28:43 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable STILL)
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To: drSteve78

I have not told anyone here that they are ‘wrong’ for taking OR denying the jab.

I have simply said that I have done what I thought was best for me, and I think everyone should do what they think is best for THEM. I have consistently stated, from the beginning, that I believe it should be a personal health choice.

If you can point to any post of mine where I have tried to tell people that they should take or not take the vaccinations, please remind me of it.

The fact that I don’t happen to agree with everything that everyone posts here about it, is a separate matter.

I guess what’s really bothering some people, is that I’m just not afraid of all of this - I refuse to engage the fear.


50 posted on 07/23/2022 10:37:06 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: CheshireTheCat

51 posted on 07/23/2022 10:40:28 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Jamestown1630

Oh, the liars and deceivers who got us on this mess are okay by you — mere bureaucrats…. But, oh, the harsh post that holds you accountable for the nonsense you write, THE TERROR!! Please, why don’t you ‘get off your high horse’ with your “Good night!” door slamming drivel. I ain’t Mr. Jamestown1630. Anyone who isn’t deeply troubled by what’s unfolded in this country over the last 3 years is the one who’s unbalanced. And the one still buying what they’re selling after 3 years of continuous provable lying is irrational.

You accuse me of wanting to save the world. That’s not it at all. I want JUSTICE!!!


52 posted on 07/23/2022 10:43:05 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (time is short and getting shorter)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

Well, you figure out how to get your ‘justice’.


53 posted on 07/23/2022 10:46:56 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

Step 1. Hold the shills accountable by pointing out their lies and deceit.


54 posted on 07/23/2022 10:50:24 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (time is short and getting shorter)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

If you are alleging that I am one of those ‘shills’, please tell me what I’ve lied or deceived about.

Otherwise, good night, again.


55 posted on 07/23/2022 10:54:12 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Toad of Toad Hall; Jamestown1630

Let’s be fair. There are people on here who have pushed the shot and have been pretty ugly to those of us who have chosen not to take it.

From what I have seen, Jamestown1630 is not one of those. I’ve never seen this FReeper hissing and spitting at people or calling them names because they refused to get the shot. I *have* seen others on here do that pretty much every chance they get.

I believe whether to take the shot or not is a personal decision. A few people I love are “fully vaxxed” with boosters and all. I sincerely hope they stay well. I don’t hassle them for taking the shot and they don’t hassle me for not doing so.

I wish it could just be this way without all of the anger and contention.


56 posted on 07/23/2022 10:54:14 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra

Thank you, Allegra.

I would only add that there are people here who have condemned those of us who DID take the shot, and condemned us for no reason except that we did take it, related that fact, and have had no personal worries about it.

I’ve only written about my personal experiences. I have not tried to tell anyone else what to do - except that I believe that fear itself is a very health-destroying influence.


57 posted on 07/23/2022 11:00:24 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Deaf Smith
ALL of them said they were not taking the “vaccine”. They freely told me this with out my asking, which I was not allowed to do.

The “vaccine” topic rarely comes up among my social circles.

However, six of us got together over the Fourth of July weekend and one friend threw out the suggestion that we all take a cruise together. That brought up the vaccine topic.

It turned out that all six of us are “non-GMO” and one is a nurse. I found that interesting.

58 posted on 07/23/2022 11:08:54 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra; Jamestown1630

I will restate:

The government and the elites have been able to lie about the following: the origin, risks, GOF research, PCR tests, cases, ivermectin, body counts, masks, social distancing, lock-downs. All the aforementioned lies told about those topics is by now irrefutable. The government lied and lied repeatedly. And, for the most part, even admit it.

But I have left one item off my original list:

the vaxx.

That has somehow become separated from everything else, but in fact can’t be separated because it would not exist in the absence of the others. Yet somehow, we are to trust the vaccine in the face of all the other lies.

And you can now read very scientific articles about myocarditis, neurological disorders, blood clots, miscarriages, changes to menstrual cycles, etc. brought on by the vaxx AFTER being told those adverse effects were impossible.

And then you see family and colleagues and friends suffer worse from the vaxx than if they had gotten the illness. You witness worse adverse effects in friends and family. You see them get COVID despite the shot. You see them get sick constantly like their immune system has abandoned them. And then the government admits the vaxx doesn’t prevent infection or stop the spread.

But, because I have seen and processed this information and declined the jab for me and my kids my job is threatened, my kids activities and participation in school is threatened. I am not allowed at family functions. I am insulted and derided at work.

So, where is my choice??

And this is not going away. It is, I believe, on hiatus. They will be coming for me and all the other unvaccinated again. I’m certain of that.

So, when you talk about fear, my fear is real. As vaccinated people, you’re more equal than others. Forgive me if I am a little touchy on the subject.

Jamestown1630. I apologize for being too harsh. 40 was more dramatic and uncivil than it needed to be. I’m sorry.

But, I will say this, my reservations about the vaxx are sincere, fact based and scientific. Dismissing the views and arguments expressed here that disagree with your views as irrational nutty rubbish is unfair, mean spirited, and ignorant. Not accusing you of that. But that happens here I’m sure you’ll agree.

Finally, with love, I will say this, I do not trust those vaccines and I would recommend a more skeptical appraisal of what they are doing to you and what you can do to counteract those effects.

I wish you all the best and especially good health. God bless.


59 posted on 07/23/2022 11:41:58 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (time is short and getting shorter)
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To: Jamestown1630

The problem is there is reason for fear. The side effects of these shots are predicted to be long term. You should be aware that it’s possible that you will have to deal with them. I have read many comments by people who have already experienced life changing consequences of these experimental shots - that is comments by those not already dead. It’s real.

Maybe you’ll be lucky and not experience right sided hypertension like Dr Malone predicts for many in the next 3 years....or cancer because your immune system has been altered.

If you choose to ignore this ..well...maybe you should because it’s too late now.


60 posted on 07/24/2022 12:09:57 AM PDT by Aria
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