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Nazi collaborator monuments in Ukraine
Forward (Jewish, independent, nonprofit) ^ | January 27, 2021 | Lev Golinkin

Posted on 07/16/2022 6:05:55 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: Thunder90; Mount Athos
Russia's national anthem, The State Anthem of the Russian Federation--is the old Stalinist anthem Unbreakable Union of Free Republics, only with new lyrics. However, not all the lyrics are new. The first line of the refrain, "glory to the fatherland and our freedom," is the same in both versions.
41 posted on 07/16/2022 7:32:42 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Mount Athos

There’s a statue of a Nazi in front of NASA headquarters.

It’s been there for decades.

L


42 posted on 07/16/2022 7:34:12 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Fiji Hill

The song “America the beautiful” (My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty...) was put to the music for “God save the queen”.

Does your logic mean this song was secret advocacy for the queen


43 posted on 07/16/2022 7:35:36 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos
Waiting for you to post about Lenin’s tomb,father of the Soviet Union, in Russia...

Still waiting....

44 posted on 07/16/2022 7:36:16 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Mount Athos

I call it an atrocity that had nothing to do with Nazism.


45 posted on 07/16/2022 7:38:19 PM PDT by jdege
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To: Mount Athos

“70-100 thousands polish Civilians.”

The pricks didnt just commit the mass murder of Poles. They killed anyone they didnt see fit to be “Ukrainian” in their demented eyes.

Anyone on here that says anything other are lying sordid sons a bitches.


46 posted on 07/16/2022 7:41:53 PM PDT by crz
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To: Mount Athos

https://m.facebook.com/eduard.dolinsky

@edolinsky


47 posted on 07/16/2022 7:43:39 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Mount Athos

Obviously, you did read what I wrote. So, I will say it again!

You make a deal with a devil to fight a greater devil. The lesser devil will make you do devilish things. Much like an urban gang will make you commit a random killing as a rite of initiation.

Eastern\Central Europe has 100s if not 1000s of years of ethnic hatreds that a Hitler could easily exploit with a Bandera and others like him. The Poles & Ukrainians have a dislike for each other that not only stems from religious differences (Catholic vs Orthodox) to memories of wars & atrocities (both sides!) between Ukraine & the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (circa 1600s) to the Czarist use of Cossacks (Ukrainians) to enforce Russian Imperial rule in Poland. I think they may now be past that perhaps thanks to the current war.

The history of all those countries and ethnicities is mostly bloody tragedy! In the Eastern\Central Europe, the Balkans massacres, mass enslavements even though they happened 500-600 years ago are kept alive like they were yesterday. It’s foolish to judge the countries, the cultures through a modern Western cultural lens.

I no way can anything I have written imply I approve of such actions.


48 posted on 07/16/2022 7:45:01 PM PDT by Reily
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To: MarMema

I bet that link is really good, but there’s no way I’m going to facebook


49 posted on 07/16/2022 7:49:57 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Ukraine is a deep state tool that is full of darkness. This in not to knock the entire population of Ukraine. But it is controlled by evil forces who do evil things there. Just like the democrats are doing evil things here. Part of the deep state plan has always been to infiltrate Russia via Ukraine. It started with color revolution. The democrats have spent years doing the same thing here. How do people think we got to the point where even our monuments are being torn down. It is to bad that we did nothing, and just let it happen to us.


50 posted on 07/16/2022 7:54:46 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

i think the same way


51 posted on 07/16/2022 7:55:42 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: jdege

“I call it an atrocity that had nothing to do with Nazism.”

We know exactly what ideology the OUN-B units had who mass murdered these 70,000-100,000 civilians.

It was the ideology of Stepan Bandera who founded these units. They were Banderites, just like Azov, Tornado, Aidar and Right Sektor units of today. It was no coincidence.

The same guy they erect statues of and name streets after.
Not decades ago, but today. New statues and new street namings from 2014. Lots of torch marches in modern times carrying big portraits of this guy.


52 posted on 07/16/2022 7:59:56 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Ukraine has no love for Jews.


53 posted on 07/16/2022 8:02:38 PM PDT by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: McGruff

Damn lies.


54 posted on 07/16/2022 8:03:17 PM PDT by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Mount Athos

As John Bolton said - if you want to overthrow the government of a small country, its easy. I will add - you just empower the most radical elements on the extreme of its political spectrum

The what the USA deep state has done in Ukraine for the last 2 decades, going into overdrive with the Maidan Coup.


55 posted on 07/16/2022 8:04:49 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Precisely.


56 posted on 07/16/2022 8:09:08 PM PDT by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Mount Athos
"America the Beautiful" took its melody from "Oh, Mother Dear, Jerusalem" You're thinking of "America."

Vast Country, My Homeland is still popular in Russia, but the current version probably doesn't include the line "in big gold letters, we write the Stalinist code."

57 posted on 07/16/2022 8:17:37 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: MarMema

Thanks…


58 posted on 07/16/2022 8:28:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Mount Athos
As if dictator and persecutor of Christians Putin was not a problem:

Putin's Dictatorship—and Antisemitism The Russian leader has long exploited anti-Jewish politicians and rhetoric to further his own authoritarian goals.
'Putin’s Hybrid War and the Jews' Sam Sokol looks at the fate of Jews in Ukraine...I was a reporter for the Jerusalem Post covering Jewish diaspora affairs… When the Euromaidan started, because of Svoboda’s [a far-right political party] role in the protests we thought it would be appropriate if I went out and reported from the ground there… As the conflict continued you started to see that even though it wasn’t a Jewish conflict, Jewish issues kept coming to the fore. There was a rise in anti-Semitic attacks, and this started to be used in the propaganda on the Russian side which said it was a “fascist junta” and “Nazis were taking over Ukraine.” As Russia took Crimea and started fermenting separatist uprising in the Donbass you started seeing these Jewish issues more and more, and more accusations of anti-Semitism. It was brilliant if twisted idea from Putin and the Kremlin: if you can tap into the legacy of the Great Patriotic War, make people think that they’re going to fight the fascists, then it’s easier to mobilize people, easier to cause divisions within Ukraine…
To oversimplify a little bit, the Russian side has primarily lied about what’s happening now, while the Ukrainians have lied about what’s happened in the past. Russian state-controlled media and government spokespeople have consistently exaggerated or even fabricated anti-Semitism in Ukraine. I remember in 2015 both Izvestia and Pravda [Russian newspapers] ran an article saying about 20 Jews had been beaten up in Odessa. When I called, it turned out that nothing had happened and the Jewish community leader who had been quoted in Russian media didn’t exist. They just made him up… They use the issue of anti-Semitism for propaganda. I’ve interviewed dozens of Jews who fled Ukraine, and every single one I spoke to said it was because of either the war or collapsing economy. I haven’t met a single person who said it was because of anti-Semitism...Zelensky was asked about the importance of his Jewish identity in a recent interview and he replied that it was number 20-30 in his list of attributes. Zelensky is a comedian and politician who happens to be Jewish; he’s not a Jewish politician. It’s sort of incidental to who he is and how he acts.
In 2002, the number of anti-Semitic neo-Nazi groups in the republics of the former Soviet Union, led Pravda to declare in 2002 that "Anti-Semitism is booming in Russia".[112] In January 2005, a group of 15 Duma members demanded that Judaism and Jewish organizations be banned from Russia.[113] In 2005, 500 prominent Russians, including some 20 members of the nationalist Rodina party, demanded that the state prosecutor investigate ancient Jewish texts as "anti-Russian" and ban Judaism. An investigation was in fact launched, but halted after an international outcry.[114][115] -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Russia#Modern-day_Russia
Jews Are Fleeing Russia Because Of Putin July 03, 2015 Spooked by Russia's actions in Ukraine and by the increasingly stringent punishments for anyone deemed critical of the Kremlin, Russians of Jewish descent have been fleeing in droves over the past 18 months. According to Israeli authorities, as many as 4,685 Russian citizens relocated to Israel in 2014 -- more than double than in any of the previous 16 years.

Historians slam ‘completely false’ Putin Holocaust claims at Jerusalem ceremony Russian president’s assertion that 40% of the Jews who died in the Holocaust were citizens of Soviet Union ‘ridiculous,’ and part of ongoing dispute with Poland over WWII history

59 posted on 07/16/2022 8:36:00 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: familyop

Commies on one side, nazis on the other.

CC


60 posted on 07/16/2022 8:46:00 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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