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Penalty for Oregon bakers who refused to serve same-sex couple slashed by more than $100,000
Oregon Public Broadcasting ^ | 07/13/2022 | Dirk VanderHart

Posted on 07/13/2022 10:51:51 AM PDT by aimhigh

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1 posted on 07/13/2022 10:51:51 AM PDT by aimhigh
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It’s interesting the hypocrisy of the left who demands to bake the cake because the venue is a public service that must be provided to everyone or they will sue to put you out of business. These same leftists will demand that corporations openly discriminate against an individual who wants to say, purchase a gun with a credit card.


2 posted on 07/13/2022 10:57:22 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; 1malumprohibitum; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.
3 posted on 07/13/2022 10:57:41 AM PDT by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
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To: aimhigh

My tolerance of homosexuality ended with “Bake the damn cake.”


4 posted on 07/13/2022 10:58:18 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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Aaron Klein and his wife Melissa have left Oregon. Business records indicate they have reopened their business in Montana.

I wasn't aware of that. Good for them!

5 posted on 07/13/2022 11:01:19 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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It’s unfortunate for us, but I’ve seen two or three OTHER “decisions” that should never have been in the first place, “reduced” because it was “sort’a kind’a not right to begin with”


6 posted on 07/13/2022 11:03:14 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . . . I may not have proof, but they're true !)
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To: aimhigh

Calling refusal to bake a wedding cake “refusing to serve” is a lie. They refused to extend the services they provide to everyone to include a special cake in celebration of something they felt uncomfortable about. If they had refused to let the gay couple into their shop or to sell them a bagel that would be wring. But to sue them for this is not being a champion civil rights, its being a champion of persecuting others for not celebrating your life style.


7 posted on 07/13/2022 11:10:09 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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While the court found the state had a right to penalize Klein for illegal discrimination, it also concluded that BOLI had “at least subtly” strayed from its legal requirement to be neutral in regard to his religion.

They should refuse to pay. A state CANNOT set legal requirements for someone to practice their religion. Separation of Church & State, anyone? (That's what they say all the time. Turnabout's fair play.)

8 posted on 07/13/2022 11:13:15 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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They refused to extend the services they provide to everyone to include a special cake in celebration of something they felt uncomfortable about.

Which is what got them into trouble in the first place. Sexual orientation is a protected class in Oregon.

9 posted on 07/13/2022 11:15:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: aimhigh

I have a gut feeling they are trying to lower the fine, so the case will go away. Maybe they are afraid if it goes back to the Supreme Court, their chances might not be as good.


10 posted on 07/13/2022 11:15:30 AM PDT by wbarmy (Trying to do better.)
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To: aimhigh

Not one cent for slavery to sodomy.


11 posted on 07/13/2022 11:19:48 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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They will lose at scotus that is indeed why they dropped the fine.


12 posted on 07/13/2022 11:40:28 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: aimhigh

Isn’t it strange Facebook, Twitter and all the other “social” media sites can ban people who post conservative views but small business owners can’t ban orders because of their religious beliefs.


13 posted on 07/13/2022 11:48:42 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: aimhigh

Civil Punishment by Bureaucratic & Judicial Abuse.

If there’s not a law against such action by the state, there should be, with criminal and financial penalties.


14 posted on 07/13/2022 1:10:51 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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a Gresham baker who refused to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple nearly a decade ago.

Wow, this case has lasted longer than most gay marriages.

In the future, a sign behind the counter saying "15% of all cake orders will be donated to Get Out of Being Gay Organization."

15 posted on 07/13/2022 1:19:31 PM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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To: aimhigh

It should be cut to $0. In fact, the couple should pay the bakers for the intentional emotional distress and tortuous interference in their business they deliberately committed.


16 posted on 07/13/2022 1:23:02 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: aimhigh
You can not refuse to sell something off the shelf (or rack). In this case you are a seller.

You can refuse to take a special commission for any or no reason. You are no longer a seller but an employee.

This is something that people are failing to understand. You can not be forced to take a job. That would be slavery.

For those who want to object to the slavery label "because they are paying you" please understand that slavery is not unpaid labor, it is forced labor.

If you can not accept or decline a job it is slavery no matter if you get paid or you do not get paid.

17 posted on 07/13/2022 1:27:44 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: aimhigh

So it’s gone from a travesty of justice, to a travesty of justice.


18 posted on 07/13/2022 1:42:46 PM PDT by robel
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Wow, this case has lasted longer than most gay marriages.>

Most heterosexual marriages as well.

19 posted on 07/13/2022 1:58:16 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Nope.

Once again you are spreading disinformation. Or as we use to say, lying though your teeth.

20 posted on 07/13/2022 2:10:33 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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