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Ukraine ping

Biden’s slow-walking of ammo and equipment to Ukraine as a quid pro quo for Putin’s payments to Hunter through Burisma via his lapdog (and Burisma’s owner) Zlochevsky continues to pay dividends. In 2014, the Ukrainian parliament impeached Viktor Yanukovich for attempting to make himself dictator and for massacring the demonstrators at Maidan Square. Zlochevsky, Burisma’s owner, served in Yanukovich’s cabinet. When Yanukovich fled Ukraine to rendezvous with his master Putin in Moscow, Zlochevsky also ran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykola_Zlochevsky

Note that Yanukovich and Zlochevsky were in a pro-Russian administration, which is to say they wanted Ukraine to be a Russian province. Even assuming Zlochevsky was acting in his own capacity rather than as a cutout for Putin, the reason he paid Biden was to assist Russia in its quest to conquer Ukraine, not help Ukraine remain independent.

But Russian propagandists will tell you that “Ukraine” paid Biden to get US aid. In reality, Putin may have funneled bribes to Biden using Burisma’s owner as a middleman.


2 posted on 07/12/2022 12:21:30 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

That’s a real bummer about the artillery blowing them nazi galicians to smithereens... Anyway, I need to get my tires rotated again. I’m going to try tomorrow because Saturdays are always a zoo.


10 posted on 07/12/2022 12:34:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Zhang Fei

The west is terrified of a Russian nuke response. Hence, they don’t want to win, just to prolong the fight.


12 posted on 07/12/2022 12:36:04 PM PDT by Browns Ultra Fan (uaic)
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To: Zhang Fei

People keep talking about sums like $40 billion and such, but what Biden has actually delivered is (by the 1st of July) only $2.4B worth of weapons.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

Slow walking and timid!


15 posted on 07/12/2022 12:37:30 PM PDT by Krosan
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To: Zhang Fei

Not so sure it can be characterized as “slow walking”, but it takes some time to train people to use the weapons before they can be brought it.

And there is another matter. Viky Spatz. She traveled all of Ukraine and learned from speaking to people all over the country, there are plenty of western weapons in Ukraine, but the guy who runs the country (not Zelenski) has held them up in central Ukraine depots.

See FR thread “Attack on Europe”: “War in Ukraine” post for today and yesterday for all the details.


33 posted on 07/12/2022 1:02:31 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Zhang Fei
But Russian propagandists will tell you that “Ukraine” paid Biden to get US aid. In reality, Putin may have funneled bribes to Biden using Burisma’s owner as a middleman.

Interesting take, but it would not at all surprise me that PedoClown, TheWhore, the US Congress, oligarchs, drug cartels, the M.I.C., the EU, and now Russia are all passing the hat to each other.

Or that PedoClown is not unsurprisingly also on the Russia Russia Russia payroll, in some 10% way (owned by China and the mafia and intelligence agencies, may as well get his cut from Russia, too).


59 posted on 07/12/2022 7:07:02 PM PDT by Miguk
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