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David Brooks: Why mass shooters do the evil they do
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | July 10, 2022 | David Brooks, The New York Times

Posted on 07/11/2022 7:46:56 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I will never get over the fact that our society seems to produce a steady stream of young men who think it is heroic to murder innocent people. I read their histories. I look at the social science research. I’ve tried to understand the typical pathway they take to get to their evil behavior.

The common thing to say about mass shooters is that they have mental health issues, but that’s often misleading. This has been studied in a variety of ways. A majority of mass shooters do not have diagnosed mental illness. It’s mostly the circumstances that drive them to do what they do, not an underlying disease.

The more accurate place to start is with something George Bernard Shaw wrote many years ago: “The worst sin towards our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: That’s the essence of inhumanity.”

These young men are frequently ghosts. They often experience early childhood trauma, like abuse or extreme bullying. In school no one knows them. Boys and girls turn their backs on them. Later, when journalists interview their teachers or neighbors, they are remembered as withdrawn and remote. These young men often have no social skills. Why doesn’t anybody like me? As one researcher put it, they are not necessarily loners; they are failed joiners.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bullying; davidbrooks; drugs; loners; marijuana; parents; pot; shootings; stardom
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To: basalt

There’s no way all kids can handle how strong the weed is now...so much stronger than it used to be.


21 posted on 07/11/2022 8:41:22 AM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If they arent diagnosed why are they all on psych drugs?


22 posted on 07/11/2022 8:49:35 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It is the price of a Godless society. From that void all the other ills rush in.


23 posted on 07/11/2022 9:07:53 AM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Mass murder is a time for political posturing by politicians. Liberals tend to focus on the tool used to commit the crime. Conservatives are willing to look at factors which contribute to the mass murder mindset but, usually, only to propose ways to identify the killer before he or she acts.

Both of those approaches, while politically convenient, are johnnie-come-lately methods which ignore factors which built for years, even generations. They are unwilling to look at those factors for fear of offending voters like divorced parents, single parents, moviemakers, poverty pimps, atheists, educators, sex libertarians, drug legalization advocates, video game makers, rappers, social media mavens, progressive prosecutors and judges and many more.

So social pathologies grow like mushrooms in dark corners, invisible until they erupt in violence from vandalism to mass murder. The problem is, ignoring the precedents to violence is like putting it in a pressure cooker with law enforcement the steam release valve. It works to some extent so long as the valve is operating properly but bad things happen when the valve is jammed or tampered with. Rather than facing up to our societal failings which create the pressure in the first place, we are counting on containing the pressure but that means society is just one natural or man-made disaster from exploding in our faces.


24 posted on 07/11/2022 9:19:54 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

One word; psychopath


25 posted on 07/11/2022 9:53:07 AM PDT by VinnieCCT
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To: basalt

Wait, don’t tell me....they are Democrats? That’s it isn’t it? Do I win a prize?


26 posted on 07/11/2022 9:58:10 AM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Society is manufacturing really screwed up people. It will be much worse when we start having five year old children questioning their sexuality.


27 posted on 07/11/2022 10:01:55 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: Sebator

Ummm no. Weed isn’t making mass shooters.


28 posted on 07/11/2022 10:04:12 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There’s a lot of weed in mass murderers they use marijuana we should be more hesitant to legalize the stuff.

Folks like Lt. Governor John Fetterman here in PA the Democrat facing Oz in the Senate race has pushed pot.

We only have ‘medicinal marijuana’ in this state right now.


29 posted on 07/11/2022 10:25:07 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: marron

I mentioned marijuana but you mention the psych meds they are being widely used and people seem more angry because of that IMHO.


30 posted on 07/11/2022 10:26:22 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Houserino

He may have had schizophrenia, the again his family treated him poorly and he was odd looking and was not accepted at school. He had to have been on psych drugs after the knife incident. Really crappy parents and everybody at school new he was off. Per usual with these murderers.


31 posted on 07/11/2022 10:34:59 AM PDT by Pigsley (I)
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To: Nextrush

Medical was the camel’s nose. They’ve said this since NORML in the 70s, anything to get it legalized a bit, then fully.

Needs to be Singapore laws. Selling, dead in a week. Using, a month.


32 posted on 07/11/2022 10:37:48 AM PDT by Houserino
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

didn’t have this problem until ritalin replaced discipline...


33 posted on 07/11/2022 10:43:26 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Interesting and thought provoking piece by someone I don’t often read, thank you for posting it.


34 posted on 07/11/2022 10:56:23 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
So this typical liberal is engaging in hand-wringing over the poor, poor pitiful "failed joiners". The proper response is to put the murderer down - but only after investigating the question " who benefits?".

In the case of Salvador Ramos (the Uvalde murderer), the answer is "the Democrat party". Which Democrat operative paid the murderer's parents to groom him for the deed (and bought the expensive gun and ammunition)?

In the days of Saddam Hussein, there was no mystery as to who was funding the suicide bombers but the complicity of the parents (who collected the bounties) was rarely mentioned. It is long past time for a policy of aggressively prosecuting these murderous parents (as well as their demon spawn).
35 posted on 07/11/2022 11:52:52 AM PDT by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy and Al Qaeda's financier)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

**As one researcher put it, they are not necessarily loners; they are failed joiners.***

Sounds like many of us to a “T”. Trauma, being bullied. Yet I never thought of going in and wiping out a school.

What we as kids learned to do was .....”Learn to Love the Loneliness.”
That was at an Ozark School where all the kids were kin to all the other kids by blood or marriage, except us. WE were the outsiders.

All the Rocky Mountain-High Plains schools we went to were accepted, and we had friends. None in the Ozarks.

But then, the Ozark hillbillies were that way toward all outsiders.


36 posted on 07/11/2022 11:54:04 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms.” – Aristotl)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Remember the horde of “experts” who profiled the DC sniper.

Ah, the angry middle aged white man in a white panel van. Thanks for reminding us.

37 posted on 07/12/2022 7:22:09 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

SSRI drugs, Gapetin, and Prozac. all have Suicide and Homicide warnings.

110. ANTIDEPRESSANTS ARE THE ROOT CAUSE OF MASS SHOOTINGS
Lockdowns and masks may contribute, but the toxic “selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors” (SSRIs) were proven to cause violence since the 1990s when they were first studied.

https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/antidepressants-are-the-root-cause#details


38 posted on 07/12/2022 2:33:24 PM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The weeds are making their move.

Evil is acting up.


39 posted on 07/13/2022 11:08:36 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why is it that Bible believing Christians discount the concept and frequency of earthbound evil spirits entering people and taking control.

Casting them out was a large percentage of Jesus’s healings.


40 posted on 07/13/2022 11:11:44 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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