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Ukraine: the situation (June 27, 2022)
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Posted on 06/28/2022 4:31:45 AM PDT by FarCenter

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To: McGruff
Saddam got 100 percent of the vote in his last election.

LOL, why don't you use you're hero Putin as an example of rigged elections.

Power in Russia’s authoritarian political system is concentrated in the hands of President Vladimir Putin. With loyalist security forces, a subservient judiciary, a controlled media environment, and a legislature consisting of a ruling party and pliable opposition factions, the Kremlin is able to manipulate elections and suppress genuine dissent. Rampant corruption facilitates shifting links among state officials and organized crime groups.

https://freedomhouse.org/country/russia/freedom-world/2022

21 posted on 06/28/2022 6:12:53 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: FarCenter

zelensky is a fool.
if he is not careful he will get the west involved in a euro world war


22 posted on 06/28/2022 6:13:42 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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To: FarCenter
But talk of ending the war by winter with Ukrainian forces emerging victorious and having regained the ground now lost seems a stretch by any count. That Zelensky talks that talk is understandable but is hardly realistic.

Biden's proxy war is marching Ukrainian soldiers to their death. Biden's open borders are killing people with fentanyl and also killing people encouraged to cross, like the 47 in TX yesterday. This is an outrage. In Winter he will be killing Americans who can't afford to heat their homes.

23 posted on 06/28/2022 6:19:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: tlozo
"Ukrainians were going to have to fight for their freedom from Russian imperialists like Putin, sooner or later. This Putin invasion has put and end to any talk of Ukrainians, even ethnic Russians in Ukraine, wanting to be part of Putin's Russia. It has also ended the myth of Russian military might. NATO countries are increasing their military expenditure with Sweden, Finland joining NATO. All good for the US. :)"

You are delusional and have quite the war boner, too bad it is as small as your intellect. I wonder how many Ukrainians want to die pointlessly for your fantasies?

24 posted on 06/28/2022 6:21:55 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: tlozo; BobL
"Zelensky approval is in the 90's."

What idiotic naïveté Tlozo. If that was the case then Saint George Washington Zelensky of the "peachy bottom" would not have outlawed all opposition parties.

25 posted on 06/28/2022 6:26:33 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Travis McGee

thanks, an interesting and well reasoned article.
i noticed that magazine was founded by irving Kristol - go figure....
scary thought - these globalists were able to keep the afgan war going for 20 years so they are no longer amateurs at this.


26 posted on 06/28/2022 6:27:58 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: WMarshal
Zelensky of the "peachy bottom" would not have outlawed all opposition parties.

Its Putin that has outlawed all opposition parties. Zelensky banned the pro-Russian parties during a Russian invasion.

27 posted on 06/28/2022 6:33:43 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: WMarshal
I wonder how many Ukrainians want to die pointlessly for your fantasies?

Ukrainians fighting and willing to die to be free should be supported. Sorry to hear that's an alien concept to you.

28 posted on 06/28/2022 6:35:47 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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so I asked my friend, Romanian born Antoinette antoneva, can you read this? she said yes it is serb..

“faith in god, fatherland and buda”

buda was budimir, and fought off the muslims in the 1300s

it was burned on a sks rifle


29 posted on 06/28/2022 6:41:46 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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To: tlozo
"Its Putin that has outlawed all opposition parties. Zelensky banned the pro-Russian parties during a Russian invasion."

I am no fan of Pooty Poot, I know that Zelensky, like the WEF animals attacking us at home in America, is a despotic, lying fraud propped up by the CIA and the grifting Eurotrash using and abusing America through NATO. You are like a whore that loves the pimp that abuses her.

30 posted on 06/28/2022 6:43:06 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: WMarshal
You are like a whore that loves the pimp that abuses her.

LOL, I think its time to take you're meds.

31 posted on 06/28/2022 6:46:46 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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a soviet rifle with a NATO grenade launcher...


32 posted on 06/28/2022 6:47:40 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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To: WMarshal
What idiotic naïveté Tlozo. If that was the case then Saint George Washington Zelensky of the "peachy bottom" would not have outlawed all opposition parties.

Naïveté? No, its normal. Surprised you don't understand. External attacks unite a country and have people rally around a leader. Ukrainians are united in hatred of Putin's invasion. Zelensky polled in the 30's before Putin's invasion, now its in the 90's.

When asked about President Zelensky, 94% of Ukrainians strongly approve or somewhat approve of his job performance.

https://www.iri.org/news/iri-ukraine-poll-shows-overwhelming-support-for-zelensky-confidence-in-winning-the-war-desire-for-eu-membership/

33 posted on 06/28/2022 6:53:47 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

94% of Ukrainians strongly approve or somewhat approve of his job performance.

LOL!!!

joe biden too!!


34 posted on 06/28/2022 7:06:15 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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To: tlozo

all zelensky needed to do was recognize the separatist areas


35 posted on 06/28/2022 7:08:18 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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we have a border war too.

lets sail some nukes /s


36 posted on 06/28/2022 7:10:41 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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To: mylife
all zelensky needed to do was recognize the separatist areas

Putin demanded Ukrainian neutrality, disarmament-with max 60,000 army and official status of Russian as a Ukrainian state language. De-facto Ukrainian puppet state.

37 posted on 06/28/2022 7:22:47 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

Abraham Lincoln didn’t dissolve the Democratic Party when he was fighting the Democrat Party of the deep south. Just saying.


38 posted on 06/28/2022 7:23:51 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: mylife
LOL!!! joe biden too!!

Joe Biden polls in the 30's, Zelensky polls in the 90's. Feel free to share any differing poll, but I'm sure you won't.

Zelensky's approval rating skyrocketed as he handled the conflict. The poll found that 90 percent of residents supported him, which represents a jump of about 40 points compared to another poll released earlier in February.

https://www.newsweek.com/93-percent-ukrainians-believe-russia-will-defeated-poll-1689796

39 posted on 06/28/2022 7:27:43 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: FarCenter

“The UGS needs to…..pull out troops, collapse the salient and withdraw to a more defensible perimeter.“

This would’ve been a wise decision weeks ago when the commanders on scene asked to do this very thing. But now? Well let’s just say “that ship has sailed.”

Honestly I do not know who is making Uke high level war decisions, but they are not very good at it. Pulling back in war time is not always a bad thing….but Uke leaders seem to think it is better to let their forces be surrounded than moving one step back. I often wonder if all the Uke armies are called the 6th.


40 posted on 06/28/2022 7:51:48 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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