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To: Right_in_Virginia
"before Russia demands an unconditional surrender"

Let's look at the progress of the war

That don't look like a Ukrainian collapse -- looks like a Russian collapse

Russian advances are all in pink. Initially, Russia claimed most of the Ukrainian northern border. By April 24, Russia has lost nearly all of it.

Now they are struggling and killing thousands of their young men for inches of ground in the Donbas. They aren't in any position to demand an unconditional surrender

18 posted on 06/26/2022 5:02:14 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

You should come up with a graph of troops left fighting.


30 posted on 06/26/2022 6:38:37 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Cronos

Do you think Ukraine is “winning” this war?

The pink and non-pink areas are impressive in one respect. But I don’t think it takes into consideration that if you look at the photos of cities and villages before and after you can see the destruction of Ukraine.

Secondly, they are not harvesting grain, transporting grain, manufacturing or exporting fertilizer and their natural gas, oil and shale deposits are no longer being developed.

If and when the Russians cut Odessa off from the Ukrainians, I think that a land locked Ukraine might be amenable to neutrality and an understanding of Russia’s paranoid delusion of NATO invasion.

The people that should be worried live in Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia.

They really need to read the fine print of Article 5 of the NATO agreement. There’s a real nice “catch-22” verbiage in it.

Like Yossarian said, ‘That’s some catch, that catch-22,’ he observed. ‘It’s the best there is,’ Doc Daneeka agreed.”


38 posted on 06/26/2022 8:19:20 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: Cronos

It is Russia not pushing for ground. They are taking out the Ukraine soldiers with ease. Some of you think this is a conquest. If Russia wanted to, they could march to London with ease.


57 posted on 07/02/2022 9:41:32 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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