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Severodonetsk: Ukrainian forces told to retreat from key eastern city
BBC ^ | 6/24/22 | BBC

Posted on 06/24/2022 5:02:37 AM PDT by JonPreston

Ukrainian forces in Severodonetsk have been ordered to withdraw, according to the top regional official.

The city is the focus of Russia's invasion as it tries to take control of large parts of eastern Ukraine.

"Remaining in positions that have been relentlessly shelled for months just doesn't make sense," Luhansk regional head Serhiy Haidai said.

Russian forces have nearly encircled Severodonetsk in recent days, and are now targeting its twin city Lysychansk.

"They have received orders to retreat to new positions... and from there continue their operations," Mr Haidai told Ukrainian television on Friday morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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To: BobL

Russians have no concept of peace.


81 posted on 06/24/2022 6:43:39 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: lodi90

Keep in mind that Russia has a GDP less than the market cap of Microsoft. The aid just the US has provided Ukraine is on par with what Russia spends on its entire military in 1 year. I wouldn’t diminish the role of NATO surveillance which Ukraine has full access to either. Ukraine had a formidable standing army that was NATO supplied for 8 years. Much stronger than what the U.S. faced in Iraq war for instance. They’re (or at least were) more capable than Poland, battlefield Ukraine is no joke. Anyone thinking this would be a quick easy win for Russia was either deceived by a propagandist or an idiot.


82 posted on 06/24/2022 6:47:26 AM PDT by teevolt
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To: Poison Pill

“Russians have no concept of peace.”

Wow man, heavy.


83 posted on 06/24/2022 6:49:58 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

What this signifies is just not the loss of one single war. This signifies the end of US self appointed role of “World Police”. For a long time the US has lacked moral authority for such a role and now it is shown it also lacks military authority.

Unipolar is done. Petro dollar is done. Reserve currency is done. Those who support and justify the US as World Police roaming the globe passing out weapons will have difficulty adjusting to reality. Who cares what they think. Those people are stupid and selfish and wrong. To hell with them.


84 posted on 06/24/2022 6:51:50 AM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: JonPreston

Yes, finally someone other than Tucker is catching on. From Jesse Waters show:

🇺🇦⚡Russia has an “overwhelming” advantage in the war in Ukraine - Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis on Fox News

“There is no rational reason to hope that the war can turn around, because Russia is methodically moving forward and destroying the Ukrainian armed forces in the Donbas, not just seizing territory, but destroying their ability to defend the country anywhere else. And even the total sum of all the weapons that we promised to provide much less - it is hardly a tenth of what would be the minimum necessary. And if you look only at these two things, then there is no rational path to victory for Ukraine.” - Davis said in one of the most popular programs “Jesse Watters Primetime”

In the West, the realization is coming that all attempts to help Ukraine are simply irrational and cannot lead to a turning point at the front.
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Speaking of hopeless if Ukraine is down to this....

Intel Slava Z
🇺🇦⚡A draft law has been submitted to the Verkhovna Rada proposing to draft disabled people “with their consent” into the army. Also, once again it is proposed to tighten the ban on leaving the territory of Ukraine for men from 18 to 60 years old.

The problems of the “war to the last Ukrainian” is that the number of Ukrainians is finite, so when the motivated ones began to run out, all that remains is to drive deviationists and disabled people to the slaughterhouse.
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85 posted on 06/24/2022 6:54:55 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: glorgau

Great term—had not heard of it before...”sealioning”....

Thanks.


86 posted on 06/24/2022 6:56:17 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: BobL

I know people there. That wasn’t false. They’ve been systematically murdered and raped for years.


87 posted on 06/24/2022 6:56:43 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: FreshPrince

i believe i read the same thing.

is this like the mauripol evacuation to new positions thing?


88 posted on 06/24/2022 6:57:15 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Poison Pill

The Russians seemed to be pretty peaceful until Biden was installed. He is a spreader of hate and destruction. The Biden admin neocons and neolibs know what they did, they do the same all over the world and get away with it as they ruin country afer country.

The pity is that too many people can’t move out of the past and see what is going on now.


89 posted on 06/24/2022 6:59:03 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: Poison Pill

My mother in law is pretty good.

You have no concept of Russians. Ever been to Ukraine?


90 posted on 06/24/2022 7:01:28 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

“I know people there. That wasn’t false. They’ve been systematically murdered and raped for years.”

What are their names, and how do I reach them?

If you won’t disclose that, then I can simply state the opposite with the same level of ‘credibility’ as yourself.


91 posted on 06/24/2022 7:02:20 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: BobL

anytime our media makes sure to include opinion that something is false or debunked, I pretty much assume the opposite as a starting point.


92 posted on 06/24/2022 7:02:31 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: dforest

“The Russians seemed to be pretty peaceful until Biden was installed.”

It really started with Obama made Skunk Cabbage Secretary of State. Her ABJECT HATRED of the Russians (probably for jettisoning Communism) got everything moving for the Neocons.


93 posted on 06/24/2022 7:04:06 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: Bulwyf
I know people there

Why should we believe you? You've been saying this for three months, as if it gives you an air of credibility. It doesn't. Besides I know people here in America that want the $80bn in tax dollars that went to Ukraine spent right here in the US. We are the priority.

94 posted on 06/24/2022 7:04:21 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Flick Lives

since timing is in question, I would be looking at spreads or diagonals and both trying to see where implied events are (skew) and what can be put together with greatly reduced risk.


95 posted on 06/24/2022 7:04:35 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: BobL

Sig, now in peace River, Alberta. Maybe look him up on telegram. Also have Russian family. Lot of Ukrainians up here in Canada too will tell you the truth. I’m not disclosing numbers on here.


96 posted on 06/24/2022 7:05:28 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: BobL
What are their names, and how do I reach them?

I missed this comment Bob. I had the same thought in #94.

97 posted on 06/24/2022 7:06:24 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: kiryandil

I guess you missed the concept of rubber boats, swimming and such like.


98 posted on 06/24/2022 7:09:04 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Bulwyf

“Sig, now in peace River, Alberta. Maybe look him up on telegram. Also have Russian family. Lot of Ukrainians up here in Canada too will tell you the truth. I’m not disclosing numbers on here.”

Keep going, we need NAMES and PHONE NUMBERS in Ukraine.


99 posted on 06/24/2022 7:09:38 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: FreshPrince
Oh wait, we have been hearing this shit for months.

King (of Battle) takes Rook. King’s are slow, but steady.
100 posted on 06/24/2022 7:13:08 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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