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Russia's 'outdated weapons' no match for Ukraine as 55% of forces WIPED OUT in Donbas
Express UK ^ | 6/22/2022 | James Lee

Posted on 06/22/2022 10:12:16 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Man made climate change.

Hillary had 98% chance of winning 2016.

Trump is a Russian stooge.

Pee pee tapes.

Most secure election ever.

The shots are safe and effective.

Ukraine is kicking Russia’s butt.

All brought to you by the same msm.


81 posted on 06/22/2022 1:46:27 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: existentially_kuffer

Putin sure has made a mess of things.
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For NATO and the 4th Reich, that is correct.

He is reordering the world. This is an inflection point in world history and no matter what the NWO, WEF, et al, try, there are too many people witnessing the entire thing, both on the field and behind the scenes, in the EU, the US and Canada (the government of which, down to the provincial levels, is practically Banderista HQ West) to hide it from history.

Considering the amount of $$ and relentlessness displayed by the 4th Reich, Putin has done well. He has made the point to the entire world that prepared nationalism in the defense of sovereignty can take on the enemies of all humanity and win.


82 posted on 06/22/2022 1:46:49 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: FreshPrince

...impact on gas prices
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Oil is fungible, as you well know. Corridors seem to be at the least equal to pipelines & Russia has control of both.

My local gas stayed at $4.89 for almost a month and today it is $4.79, at the very height of tourist season.


83 posted on 06/22/2022 1:54:34 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: MercyFlush

The reasons for losing seem similar from the 60s and 70s to now, basically since WW II to now.

We’ve spent untold trillions of dollars on defense and can’t defeat rice farmers and goat herders.


84 posted on 06/22/2022 1:56:49 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: achilles2000

Like I’ve said, I don’t much of anything about the war, both sides have an agenda and have repeatedly lied, until one sides either surrenders or withdraws I will remain basically unconvinced of anything.

I’m certainly no war strategist but it seems to me that Ukraine has little chance of outright winning the war and driving out Russia, if I were them, I would be considering a guerrilla war strategy and try to bleed Russia, a death by 1000 cuts, much like the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan did to them, bog them down like we were in Afghanistan.


85 posted on 06/22/2022 2:01:05 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Cathi

That is pitch-perfect Wokese writing. Sad that it was intended to be serious.

We are not only our worst enemy, we are worthy of a Monty Python movie, or at least a skit.


86 posted on 06/22/2022 2:06:44 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan
Moskva, the sequel. LOL!


87 posted on 06/22/2022 2:27:57 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: dennisw
Bad news for Russia in the Black Sea tonight. Stay tuned...


88 posted on 06/22/2022 2:34:51 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: srmanuel

We were not defeated by the rice farmers, we were defeated by the contemptible 1960’s liberals/communists.

As to the goat humpers they cannot be defeated only eradicated.


89 posted on 06/22/2022 2:41:26 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush

Perhaps, the strange thing is we are now going back to help Vietnam who has real enemy on their border in China.

I would not one bit surprised that at some point in the future we start funding the Taliban. China moves into Afghanistan; we start funding the Taliban to bog them down a guerilla war. Not saying it’s going to happen, but stranger things have occurred.


90 posted on 06/22/2022 2:59:53 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: reformedliberal

“We are not only our worst enemy, we are worthy of a Monty Python movie, or at least a skit.”


And I would laugh if it weren’t for the fact we are in the process of committing suicide..:-( We are actually itching for a fight. We just can’t help ourselves. Our hubris is off the charts and so unwarranted.

It is literally frightening to read what most objective military analysts say about our inability to engage a “near-peer” army. We haven’t even been able to defeat 3rd world forces for decades.

But, we just won’t stop trying to provoke WWIII.

Update from yesterday on our behind the scenes participation in Ukraine:

“In the area of ​​​​Nikolaevka of the Donetsk People’s Republic, due to the threat of defeating the units of the 14th and 24th mechanized brigades , the Ukrainian command evacuated up to 30 wounded and eight dead American and British mercenaries at night to prevent them from falling into the units of the Russian Armed Forces.”


91 posted on 06/22/2022 3:30:50 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: marcusmaximus
Sure, Maxy...Ukraine itself admits to suffering massive losses that dwarf our losses in the Vietnamn war:

https://www.axios.com/2022/06/15/ukraine-1000-casualties-day-donbas-arakhamia

Up to 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed or wounded each day in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, with 200 to 500 killed on average and many more wounded, a top Ukrainian official said on Wednesday.

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https://sonar21.com/western-military-analysts-including-the-cia-dazed-and-confused/

One of the old intel codgers, Graham E. Fuller, who was Vice Chair of the National Intelligence Council at CIA back when I was an analyst, has it figured out. He wrote a piece sure to get him removed from woke Washington, DC parties:

Secondary condemnation belongs to the US (NATO) in deliberately provoking a war with Russia by implacably pushing its hostile military organization, despite Moscow’s repeated notifications about crossing red lines, right up to the gates of Russia. This war did not have to be if Ukranian neutrality, á la Finland and Austria, had been accepted. Instead Washington has called for clear Russian defeat.

Contrary to Washington’s triumphalist pronouncements, Russia is winning the war, Ukraine has lost the war. Any longer-term damage to Russia is open to debate.

Sadly for Washington, nearly every single one of its expectations about this war are turning out to be incorrect. Indeed the West may come to look back at this moment as the final argument against following Washington’s quest for global dominance into ever newer and more dangerous and damaging confrontations with Eurasia. And most of the rest of the world–Latin America, India, the Middle East and Africa– find few national interests in this fundamentally American war against Russia.

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You a delusional IDIOT. Russophobic hatred is resulting in tens of thousands of dead Ukrainians and shrinking amount of territory for Ukraine.

92 posted on 06/22/2022 3:41:21 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Tonight: Moskva, The Sequel. LOL!


93 posted on 06/22/2022 4:02:53 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

94 posted on 06/22/2022 4:09:09 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan
Moskva Part Deux.


95 posted on 06/22/2022 4:20:19 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: srmanuel

If China invades Afghanistan then I’d want us to stay out of it. Let them have it. If anyone can clean up the vermin in that country it’s China.


96 posted on 06/22/2022 5:08:38 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: srmanuel

Fair enough, but the Russian plan is to let the affected regions in the Donbass and the south hold plebiscites to determine if they want to continue an independent (like the Donetsk and Luhansk Republics) or become part of the Russian Federation, as Crimea did through plebiscite. Those areas are Russian speaking and ethnically or culturally mainly Russian. So, I think a guerilla war would not be supported by the people there. If the Russians were to try to incorporate areas west of Kiev (the farther west the worse for the Russians), the Russians would have an ugly situation to manage. The Obama administration precipitated this war by engineering the coup that deposed the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014. Until then Ukraine was peaceful, neutral, and had no nuclear aspirations. The Russians were content with that status quo. After our coup, which installed a government intensely hostile to Russia and everything Russian, including even the language, the Donbass region declared independence saying that it did not accept the coup government. Since then the UFA has waged an 8 year war against the eastern part of Ukraine (it overran the south). This war was provoked by the Zelensky government and NATO by a plan to integrate Ukraine into NATO, and Zelensky starting to talk about getting nukes again. Moreover, Ukraine post coup reached a total of 46 biowarfare labs run by the US. As for the Russians, they have been clear that a neutral Ukraine is acceptable, but a NATO Ukraine on its borders is no more acceptable than the US would have accepted Mexico or Canada joining the Warsaw Pact (in the old days). You may remember we almost went to war over Soviet missile in Cuba in 1962. The Biden/Zelensky/MSM/British narrative during this war has been grotesquely propagandistic - gross exaggerations and stories made up out of whole cloth. Even Intel Slava (Russian) has been far more accurate, although the tone is propagandistic and it sometimes omits things that should be known. The press independent of Biden/NATO - Indian, sometimes French and German, Southfront, The Vinyard of the Saker, for example, are far more balanced.

My view is that this conflict needs a negotiated settlement before President Depends turns it into WW III. That negotiated settlement will likely have to recognize that Zelensky’s UFA has been bulldozed in the Donbass and the south, that Crimea is part of the Federation, and that Ukraine will stay neutral and non-nuclear. While I suppose a UFA miraculous rebound is theoretically possible, the chances of that are asymptotically approaching 0 as time goes on. The link I sent you is more reliable than what we see here, so you might look at it. I’m not saying that any particular account is flawless, but there are sources trying to get things right, and then there are the sorts of absurdly false things that often get posted here.


97 posted on 06/22/2022 5:29:48 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: marcusmaximus
Russian Troops Experiencing ‘Setbacks’ in Ukraine

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-25/russian-troops-experiencing-setbacks-in-ukraine

98 posted on 06/22/2022 6:16:16 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: achilles2000

The problem is President Depends has the backing of the entire Washington establishment including 90% of the Republicans,.


99 posted on 06/23/2022 1:47:10 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: hinckley buzzard
It is time to ask “cui bono?” To whose benefit is this war being drawn out.

That's easy, arms dealers are making big bucks off this war. All the stuff going to the Ukraine from the West has to be replaced.

100 posted on 06/23/2022 2:28:17 AM PDT by jpsb
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