Posted on 06/20/2022 1:01:07 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
Russia’s Baltic Fleet has reportedly launched live-fire exercises in the Kaliningrad Region with an estimated 1,000 servicemen and over 100 units of military hardware taking part.
Russia’s Baltic Fleet has launched the alleged exercises following escalating tensions with Lithuania due to a blockade of Russian transit cargo.
“About 1,000 servicemen and over 100 units of combat and special equipment of artillery and missile units will take part in the maneuvers in the Kaliningrad region,” stated the report according to Crimea news.
The firing exercises will reportedly be carried out by artillerymen using “Grad and Uragan multiple rocket launchers,Hyacinth large-calibre guns, Msta-S, Acacia dn Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems.”
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ORKS wasting ammo....
Didn’t WWII start over Germany not being able to have rail access to one of their ethnic enclaves in Poland? This is kind of the same thing except the train is trying to go west instead of east.
Everything is lining up towards WW3, the only thing that is likely to stop it is if several Euro countries decide to back out.
Admiral Josh Painter:
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.
Hunt for Red October
Didn’t WWII start over Germany not being able to have rail access to one of their ethnic enclaves in Poland?
After WWI the nation of Poland was ‘recreated’. Only problem was its only decent port on the Baltic Sea was the very German city of Danzig. So the independent Free City of Danzig was created; an ethnically German city to serve as Poland’s main port.
After Hitler took power, he started demanding that anyplace with a German majority really should be a part of greater Germany. Czechoslovakia, the Saar, Austria, etc. The first shots of WWII I believe were fired into Danzig or into Polish positions near Danzig, but it was all of Poland that got invaded—Germany from the west and let’s not forget USSR from the east.
Interestingly the USSR got to keep the half of Poland it got with its deal with Hitler. The nation of Poland got moved west into territory that had always been German. No problem, the Germans were forced to leave, including Danzig/Gdansk.
Yup, one of the reasons.
But according to the “experts” on this site, it was not one of the reasons at all.
It was called the Polish Corridor and Germany wanted access to Danzig and East Prussia through there. The Poles denied it.
It gave Hitler the final excuse to trigger his invasion.
So..Poland got carved up by the Germans and Russia as a result.
All because some elites just after WW1 decided to redraw boundries ignoring any ethnic areas.
That was one excuse, amongst others.
After WW1 Germany lost all of it’s overseas territories plus 13% of it’s European territory, approximately 27,000 square miles.
See the map.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/map/german-territorial-losses-treaty-of-versailles-1919
Yeah, Hitler really was 't a bad guy, right? Just sticking up for.the legitimate interest of his people....
/Sarc
The Danzig corridor was an excuse for war, not the reason.
No, it started because Hitler and his coterie of degenerates, street brawlers, anti-Semites, and drug-addicts had planned - as explicitly outlined in Hitler's Mein Kampf 15 years earlier - to embroil Europe in a war, annihilate European Jewry, enslave the Untermenschen of Eastern Europe, and seize vast swaths of territory, primarily to the East.
If you are talking about proximate causes, it was caused by numerous "false flag" military operations launched by the Nazis on the morning of Sept. 01, 1939.
Next question?
Regards,
They’re expecting us to jump in, and from the BS coming from DC, I think that’s more-than-likely. Hope not.
No one was going to start fighting Russia at the end of WW2. The Red Army may have won. The Poles got stuck in the middle. No one was going to kick Russia out and, well, f*** Germany. The Germans are lucky they didn’t get it worse.
The groundwork for WW2 was sown in WW1.
They divided up the countries on a fantasy whim and it created the groundwork for the second world war...and all wars since.
Ever single country in Europe, Mid East, and even the Asian rim was effected as a result of some morbid experts view of how countries lines should be drawn. Even Africa.
Hitler had nothing to do with how that happened. Wasna until the twenties to early 30s his fantasy started to
In eastern Europe, there was no such thing as a end to the fighting.
The surrender was just a piece of paper to them.
Well the UK and Poland certainly seem ready to jump in, the other countries not so much. They can ignore Hungary for now, but once Italy balks I think that will change the calculation. The US is purposely trying to speed things up before the high cost of energy destroys EU economies and they decide to force a peace deal. Plus the Dems figure if the people can be distracted by all out war, they will have a better shot at the midterms. So the EU needs to nip this in the bud soon before we get past the point of no return.
It would be more fair to put the blame on the punitive reparation clauses in the Treaty of Versailles, which bankrupted Germany and created the economic conditions that permitted the rise of Hitler. You could even blame the French occupation of the Rhineland, except Hitler recovered that years before World War II began so it was no longer an excuse. Danzig had nothing to do with it other than as an excuse.
“Didn’t WWII start over Germany not being able to have rail access to one of their ethnic enclaves in Poland? This is kind of the same thing except the train is trying to go west instead of east.”
Russian goods can still go through Lithuania. Only the goods prohibited by the sanctions can’t go through. But those prohibited goods can still go to Kaliningrad via sea, or, I assume, via air. So, this is much ado about nothing, and is just another of Putin’s pretexts to stir up trouble.
“It would be more fair to put the blame on the punitive reparation clauses in the Treaty of Versailles, which bankrupted Germany and created the economic conditions that permitted the rise of Hitler.”
Yup.
“It would be more fair to put the blame on the punitive reparation clauses in the Treaty of Versailles, which bankrupted Germany and created the economic conditions that permitted the rise of Hitler.”
Very true.
“Danzig had nothing to do with it other than as an excuse.”
It was a trigger. They needed another reason to present to the German people and that was another one.
Now to the present case. On Feb 1st this year what did the Polish legislature do? What was the reaction from the Ukrainians? What was one of the reasons Putin gave to go into the Ukraine? It gave him another reason and he used it.
I hope the whole GD barbarous bunch kill each other off.
If you insist on arguing over whether it was a “reason” or an “excuse”..we have nothing more to discuss.
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