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To: AnAmericanMother

Sure, it might have fallen of its own accord in another generation. And the viability of it wasn’t the same in 1860 as 1770.

But that has nothing to do with the issue raised.

Would the south have been more advanced and more economically developed if it never had slavery? I find the claim ridiculous, but think what you want.

If it was so harmful, they could have stopped at any point. But year after year they continued, supposedly against their own interests.

I guess the keyboard warriors of 2022 knew more than the people actually there at the time what was best for their interests.


35 posted on 06/20/2022 1:02:47 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos; Republican Wildcat

“Would the south have been more advanced and more economically developed if it never had slavery? I find the claim ridiculous, but think what you want.”

As a southerner, I say slavery held the South back. Southerners hated slavery. Very few, less than 1.4% ever held slaves at all. Slaves displaced paid workers. What Republican Wildcat posted is dead on.


43 posted on 06/20/2022 1:49:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Mount Athos

“I guess the keyboard warriors of 2022 knew more than the people actually there at the time what was best for their interests.”

Seems you’re the keyboard warrior, making challenges to people’s personal statements.

Only an idiot thinks slave labor is better than free market capitalism.


54 posted on 06/20/2022 3:01:03 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Mount Athos
If it was so harmful, they could have stopped at any point. But year after year they continued, supposedly against their own interests.

So you must also believe that allowing millions of illegal aliens swarm across our border every year is good for the U.S. They could be stopped at any point (Eisenhower proved that in the 1950s). But year after year they continue.

Comparing slavery and illegal immigration is actually a perfect analogy. Democrats have wanted both for the same reason, to do work that they don't want to pay enough to hire U.S. citizens to do, and in both cases they get really mad when Republicans try to take their cheap laborers away.

59 posted on 06/20/2022 3:55:05 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Dementia Joe is Not My President)
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To: Mount Athos
Would the south have been more advanced and more economically developed if it never had slavery? I find the claim ridiculous, but think what you want. If it was so harmful, they could have stopped at any point. But year after year they continued, supposedly against their own interests. I guess the keyboard warriors of 2022 knew more than the people actually there at the time what was best for their interests.

Reality is not something that is debatable. You pretty much push the Leftist narrative of historical revisionism.

It is reality that slavery stifled innovation - where it was absent, commerce flourished due to innovation, and of course a free market labor force. This is hardly unknown to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the history of how agriculture flourished in the North through technological innovation and remained stuck in time in the South as they continued to rely mainly on manual labor (and their belief in a master race destined to rule the inferior races - as is clearly written without any ambiguity in their resolutions of secession, stump speeches of their leaders, etc). Whereas you just make it up as you are going along even though all of the evidence of what you are claiming is to the contrary - what exactly is the point of that? Just to argue for the sake of arguing?

62 posted on 06/20/2022 5:52:07 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Mount Athos
And that is why I quoted my 4xG grandfather.

He was there.

He was intimately involved in commercial and money matters.

He had a better handle on it than most.

His conclusion was that slavery was an economic anchor; hence, south would have done better without it. As my old prof. James McPherson said, the way to figure out what people are really thinking is to read their private letters.

68 posted on 06/21/2022 9:18:05 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Mount Athos
Slavery allowed a small percentage to maintain cheap labor (Overhead depending on your operation took resources though) in the South because who the heck would want to voluntarily perform heavy labor in the heat and humidity for pennies a day? Irish indentured servants were dropping like Mayflies in the Caribbean. South needed slavery, no white man en mass used to a northern temperate climate would of voluntarily worked 6 days a week/16hrs a day/live permanently in summer conditions out in the fields picking crops. Counter for this would creating tools/”Necessity is the Mother of Invention” and all of that. Central air being one vital necessity which came many decades later.
74 posted on 06/19/2023 4:54:15 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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