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One photo of an IRS cafeteria overstuffed with paper shows why you haven't gotten your refund check yet — and just how underfunded the agency is
Business Insider ^ | June 14, 2022 | Juliana Kaplan

Posted on 06/18/2022 6:18:45 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: discostu

We’ve had our accountant do them and file them electronically.
We get our refund 2 to 3 weeks later.


61 posted on 06/18/2022 7:16:45 AM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: KevinB

To-date I have never been billed. That may change, but I think they can’t handle it. Too busy trying to service the idiots that comply.


62 posted on 06/18/2022 7:17:21 AM PDT by rellic
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

No. How you file has no impact on the government’s ability to demand information. All that happens when you file electronically is your forms get turned into bits while you wait and goes through the processing much quicker. When you file by paper some human types in your stuff, which turns your forms into bits and then it processes. E-file doesn’t the government access to anything they didn’t already have access too, it just cuts out a middle man.


63 posted on 06/18/2022 7:18:13 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: oldbill
Gone are all the 1099, W2, etc. forms.
The 1040 would be 3 lines: Total income, minus $10,000, your tax.

I think you meant to add "times 0.02" (or whatever the flat rate turns out to be).

64 posted on 06/18/2022 7:20:24 AM PDT by null and void (We're trapped between too many questions unanaswered, and too many answers unquestioned...)
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To: butlerweave

That’s a major part of the backlog problem.


65 posted on 06/18/2022 7:23:36 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

(The Parable of the IRS)

There was a greedy little boy who loved cake, and so, for his birthday his doting parents got him an extra large cake just for himself. To his cries of “more! more!” he shoved handfuls into his mouth until his cheeks were painfully bulged, and he couldn’t even chew, much less swallow.

Tears running down his cheeks, he finally dislodged the great bolus of smashed cake onto the table, fully intending to eat it all later, though it looked gross. (He quietly threw it away after some time.)

His parents just looked on, then finally asked him: “Problem?” To which he replied, I NEED MORE CAKE!!!

Then he went back to shoveling handfuls of cake into his mouth, at the same clip.

“Maybe he needs to eat richer cakes?”, asked his mother.


66 posted on 06/18/2022 7:23:56 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: telescope115

I always use software. Used to always print it out and mail it and wait and wait. But then one year we knew we’d be moving in March but at the time I was working the paperwork we hadn’t found where we were going yet. Didn’t really want to trust PO forwarding with that. But the bank account wasn’t going to change. So went efile, and the money showed up comparatively instantly and I’ve been hooked ever since.


67 posted on 06/18/2022 7:24:51 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: null and void

See how europe taxes everyone with a flat tax that goes up and up and up plus all other taxes / fees. It starts out small then balloons.


68 posted on 06/18/2022 7:25:09 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Could they have used that 40 billion sent to Ukraine?


69 posted on 06/18/2022 7:27:42 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: rellic

A bit condescending this morning, aren’t we?


70 posted on 06/18/2022 7:29:27 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: discostu

au contraire

When you file electronically the data is immediately available to the agency (and politicians) allowing manipulation and presentation differences which highlight patterns showing where addition information can assist the IRS.

I have MS in Software Engineering supported the US GVT for over 40 years, I’ve seen it happen. Just look at Obamacare where it requires Heath Care workers to electronically input all kinds of additional data to the GVT that does nothing for the patient except take away more of the doctor’s time.


71 posted on 06/18/2022 7:32:37 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

And poor people pay taxes (as they should).

Reminds me of time I was in Denver having a drink when a booming voice entered the bar and said: When Duke drinks everyone drinks. So, the barkeep poured everyone out their drink. Duke then boomed out: and when Duke pays, everyone pays.

Duke incidently was a five foot thin guy in a ten gallon hat. Almost looked like a hat with feet. Funniest guy I ever met.


72 posted on 06/18/2022 7:32:39 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: KevinB

I usually owe a few grand. I’ve never been penalized or had to pay interest.


73 posted on 06/18/2022 7:33:48 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: ridesthemiles

Actually they say they will pay interest, I think at 5%.


74 posted on 06/18/2022 7:33:50 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

They processed my tax PAYMENT quite efficiently this year.


75 posted on 06/18/2022 7:34:49 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: gitmo

Black market monies would get taxed when spent, which is how a consumption/sales tax works. So while they wouldn’t be collecting tax, they would still be paying tax when they buy legitimate goods and services.

It also eliminates the need for money laundering operations, so there goes a whole category of crime that no longer needs investigated and prosecuted.


76 posted on 06/18/2022 7:36:25 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The pic of all that paper is evidence of an obsolete system.

Government stifles innovation.


77 posted on 06/18/2022 7:36:35 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: discostu

I believe most of the processors were out during the entire covid nonsense. So, whatever paper came in just went into the piles, one on top of the other. Maybe by 2024 they will have it cleared up.

Anyway, I reduced my current withholding to cover my 2021 refund. When I get it, they get it back.


78 posted on 06/18/2022 7:39:31 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: oldbill

Never tax inheritance! That’s the fastest way to destroy small farms and businesses when the kids have to sell out to pay the taxes.


79 posted on 06/18/2022 7:39:51 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

And when you file by paper the data is available in a couple of days allowing manipulation and presentation differences which highlight patterns showing where addition information can assist the IRS.

They get all the same data. If you send them the IRS forms they get all the data on the forms. Electronically, paper. NO DIFFERENCE.

Don’t care about your claimed credentials. We’re talking about REALITY here. And REALITY is that your IRS forms already give them all the information they could want. They get your SocSec, they get your bank account, they get your employer. ALL that info is already there. There is absolutely ZERO difference in the info with the mechanics of your filing.

You are, quite simply, wrong. And in a very silly way that you can see yourself with just 2 seconds of thinking.


80 posted on 06/18/2022 7:40:11 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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