[LeoWindhorse]

I agree on this point

Ukraine and NATO should have totally stopped all the
>Join NATO< rhetoric in the lead-up to this conflict.

Putin had his points and NATO totally disregarded them.
The Bear struck....
All of this could have been avoided, 100%
Now 100s of 1000s have died, Ukraine is totally being
destroyed, in detail, and Russia has been rendered a pariah state.
Not to mention the untold value of the arms being thrown, and the disruption of the world’s economy.
It gave Biden a handy crisis to exploit...
And for what end?
We are tettering on the edge of full-on nuclear conflict over this matter.

[Hiddigeigei]

"And for what end?"
What end? Perhaps part of the "great reset" and population reduction through plague, drugs, wars, economic collapse, starvation, abortions, sexual perversion, destruction of the nuclear family, et c. Maybe Putin, Zelensky, Biden are all puppets.