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U.S. Judge Orders Tanker Owner to Pay $44 Million Over Deadly Destroyer Collision
gCaptain ^ | June 15, 2022 | Jonathan Stempel

Posted on 06/15/2022 7:29:24 PM PDT by artichokegrower

A U.S. judge on Wednesday said the owner of an oil tanker must pay the United States $44.6 million over its role in a 2017 collision between the tanker with a U.S. Navy destroyer in southeast Asia that killed 10 sailors and injured dozens more.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: destroyer; navy
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Both vessels had been cruising alongside each other when the McCain, a guided missile destroyer nearing Singapore for a routine port call, veered left.

The bow of the Alnic pierced the McCain’s broadside, causing the destroyer to flood.


The destroyer turned in front of the tanker so how is it the tanker’s fault

1 posted on 06/15/2022 7:29:24 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

The ruling was that the collision was 20% the tanker’s fault and 80% the destroyer’s fault. The $44 million is the 20%.


2 posted on 06/15/2022 7:35:11 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: artichokegrower
From the article:
In 2019, the National Transportation Safety Board said the probable cause of the collision was “a lack of effective operational oversight of the destroyer by the U.S. Navy, which resulted in insufficient training and inadequate bridge operating procedures.” It recommended several safety measures.

3 posted on 06/15/2022 7:36:20 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: artichokegrower

Are these people retarded? There’s so much ADS and other shipbound radar that such collisions are nearly impossible.


4 posted on 06/15/2022 7:36:50 PM PDT by struggle
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In August 2019, Admiral Bill Galinis, who oversees U.S. Navy ship design, said the touchscreen-based control systems were "overly complex" because shipbuilders had little guidance on how they should work, so sailors were not sure where key indicators could be found on the screen; this confusion contributed to the collision. The Navy is planning to replace all touchscreens with wheels and throttles on all of its ships, starting in mid-2020.
5 posted on 06/15/2022 7:41:42 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: artichokegrower

The idiots in the US Government aren’t bright enough to let this slip down the memory hole. No, gotta collect that cast that LITERALLY would fund about a half a second of the US Government budget.

The brain trust at it again.


6 posted on 06/15/2022 7:43:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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I thought it was previously ruled by the navy that there were specific demographic (female) crew members that were “not speaking” to each other that lead to lack of watch and safety of the ship.


7 posted on 06/15/2022 7:46:58 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: struggle
The one thing they couldn't wouldn't control is some lesbian at the wheel thinking about good times...
8 posted on 06/15/2022 7:47:36 PM PDT by SuperLuminal
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So in so many words it has to be dumbed down to the “Fisher-Price” model so the new diversity quotas can do their assignments.

Like McDonald’s withe the hamburger -french fry-cola buttons.


9 posted on 06/15/2022 7:48:24 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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The smaller vessel is supposed to give way.

A famous story involves a US battleship seeing an approaching light at night and sending a signal message.

“Give way, we are US Battleship”

A response was sent, it said,

“No you give way, we are a Lighthouse”


10 posted on 06/15/2022 7:49:01 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Deaf Smith

That was the USS Fitzgerald, off Japan. Her real problem was a seriously degraded surface search radar that led to the rough marine equivalent of a student driver trying to merge onto a superhighway at night and with her eyes closed.


11 posted on 06/15/2022 7:56:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RedMonqey
Or the doctor's office:


12 posted on 06/15/2022 8:25:37 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: SuperLuminal
lesbian at the wheel screen
13 posted on 06/15/2022 8:28:32 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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14 posted on 06/15/2022 8:52:32 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Jeff Chandler

😎


15 posted on 06/15/2022 8:57:52 PM PDT by SuperLuminal
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To: Deaf Smith

In the non-military world, it’s get woke, go broke. In the military, it’s get woke, get killed.


16 posted on 06/15/2022 10:05:34 PM PDT by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer)
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To: Jeff Chandler

In August 2019, Admiral Bill Galinis, who oversees U.S. Navy ship design, said the touchscreen-based control systems were “overly complex” because shipbuilders had little guidance on how they should work, so sailors were not sure where key indicators could be found on the screen; this confusion contributed to the collision. The Navy is planning to replace all touchscreens with wheels and throttles on all of its ships, starting in mid-2020.

What BS. Whatever happened to the good old Mark I eyeball?


17 posted on 06/15/2022 11:36:11 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Deaf Smith

I believe that was a factor in the collision aboard the USS Fitzgerald, that two female officers were having a personal feud and didn’t want to interact with each other.

In the USS McCain collision, I believe the root cause was not a physical malfunction or equipment causualty, but was the fact that one of the “features” of the ship control for the Arleigh Burke class is that the throttle and the rudder were able to be decoupled from a single navigation station (there were multiple navigation stations, ostensibly for flexibility and redundancy, IIRC) and the Helmsman/OOD did not pick up the fact that the rudder function had been inadvertently decoupled and was enabled at a different navigation station.

The Helmsman was poorly trained and inexperienced, and did not pick up the software cues that indicated that the rudder had been decoupled and was expecting to receive control input from another navigation console on the bridge. (I also believe the software cues were a poor design as well)

So, as the ship drifted, the rudder commands given at one station were not being applied to the rudder, and they didn’t recognize their input was having no effect until it was too late.

It has been a while, but that is how I recall it happened to the USS McCain.

The collision of the USS Fitzgerald was an entirely different kind of stupid in which the watch standers were completely and totally incompetent, coupled with the fact that one of the female officers in the CIC below decks who had the crucial information the other female officer acting as the OOD on the bridge could have used, didn’t communicate that information because she didn’t want to talk to her.

Compounded by the fact that rules of the road, standard notifications to wake the Captain if another ship approaches to within a certain distance, etc.


18 posted on 06/16/2022 2:59:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: artichokegrower

Way out in the middle of the salt flats, a sports car turns in front of an 18-wheeler.

It’s the sports car’s fault, 100%.


19 posted on 06/16/2022 3:04:19 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rlmorel

In both cases, the captains of the ships were not on the bridge, and the bridge watch standers and lookouts were incompetent.

USN captains are in an impossible position. If they demand competence and refuse to put incompetent fools in key positions, they will for certain be accused of sexism, racism, homophobia, etc.

If they just go along with the woke BS, every day they hope they don’t have a crisis. They just want to get through their tour of duty without a crisis. Most do. Some don’t.

But as a harbinger for wartime success or failure, when mistakes due to incompetence will mean missile strikes and sinkings, it’s terrifying.


20 posted on 06/16/2022 3:08:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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