Posted on 06/05/2022 7:18:36 PM PDT by delta7
When I wrote this piece initially last week, I identified 6 Ukrainian units that filmed themselves rebelling against their chain of command. These “rebellion” videos came on the heels of the surrender of more than 2500 members of the AZOV battalion at Mariupol. Now the number is 12–that is 12 different units in the Donbas. They all voice the same complaints about their chain of command for not properly supplying them with the weapons and equipment they need to fight. This is not your normal troop bitching about conditions. All soldiers in all wars throughout history have passed the time complaining about lousy food, terrible weather, inept commanders and stupid decisions. What you see below is unprecedented in my memory.
These soldiers still believe in fighting for Ukraine but are not keen on being used as a Russian punching bag. They believe their commanders are asking them to commit suicide. Below you can watch videos of soldiers from 12 units presenting a formal demand to President Zelensky and the Ukrainian General in Command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. This is appearing on Ukrainian social media. It is not a Russian propaganda piece. Here are the units:
13th Battalion of 58th Motorized Infantry Brigade 2nd Company of the 46th Rifle Battalion 3rd Platoon of the 46th Infantry Battalion 115th Brigade 3rd Platoon of the 115th Brigade 71st Jaeger Infantry Brigade Ukrainian 14th Brigade: 6th Battalion, 4th, 5th, and 6th companies Cherkasy Territorial Defense 95th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade 30th Mechanized Brigade 3rd Battalion 9th Company 57th Motorized Brigade 18th Marine Battalion of the 35th Brigade
UKRAINIAN MILITARY UNITS CONTINUE REBELLING AGAINST THEIR COMMANDERS 28 May 2022 by Larry Johnson 31 Comments
FacebookTwitterEmailShare When I wrote this piece initially last week, I identified 6 Ukrainian units that filmed themselves rebelling against their chain of command. These “rebellion” videos came on the heels of the surrender of more than 2500 members of the AZOV battalion at Mariupol. Now the number is 12–that is 12 different units in the Donbas. They all voice the same complaints about their chain of command for not properly supplying them with the weapons and equipment they need to fight. This is not your normal troop bitching about conditions. All soldiers in all wars throughout history have passed the time complaining about lousy food, terrible weather, inept commanders and stupid decisions. What you see below is unprecedented in my memory.
These soldiers still believe in fighting for Ukraine but are not keen on being used as a Russian punching bag. They believe their commanders are asking them to commit suicide. Below you can watch videos of soldiers from 12 units presenting a formal demand to President Zelensky and the Ukrainian General in Command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. This is appearing on Ukrainian social media. It is not a Russian propaganda piece. Here are the units:
13th Battalion of 58th Motorized Infantry Brigade 2nd Company of the 46th Rifle Battalion 3rd Platoon of the 46th Infantry Battalion 115th Brigade 3rd Platoon of the 115th Brigade 71st Jaeger Infantry Brigade Ukrainian 14th Brigade: 6th Battalion, 4th, 5th, and 6th companies Cherkasy Territorial Defense 95th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade 30th Mechanized Brigade 3rd Battalion 9th Company 57th Motorized Brigade 18th Marine Battalion of the 35th Brigade
13th Battalion of 58th Motorized Infantry Brigade
2nd Company of the 46th Rifle Battalion
3rd Platoon of the 46th Infantry Battalion
115th Brigade
3rd Platoon of the 115th Brigade
71st Jaeger Infantry Brigade
Ukrainian 14th Brigade: 6th Battalion, 4th, 5th, and 6th companies
Cherkasy Territorial Defense
95th Separate Air Assault Brigade
30th Mechanized Brigade 3rd Battalion 9th Company
57th Motorized Brigade
18th Marine Battalion of the 35th Brigade I know this is a ton of material. Those of you who believe this is all stage managed by the Russians need to explain why this is being posted on Ukrainian social media accounts. These are real Ukrainian soldiers and they are taking major risks in speaking up. This is not just one or two disgruntled privates bitching about cold chow. The members of each unit clearly felt the need to be seen supporting their spokesman.
If you took the time to watch each one you come away with enormous respect for the courage and integrity of the men speaking. I believe they are patriots who have been deceived into fighting for a false cause. But they are brave, honorable soldiers.
Being brave and honorable does not immunize one against thermobaric and conventional artillery blasts pounding the ground around your fox hole or trench. We are not talking metaphor. The blast waves pummel the body and brain of those subjected to these barrages. It is because to the stepped up Russian offensive that these Ukrainian troops are speaking up. I think the Ukrainian expression is, “Черт, нет, мы не пойдем” (i.e., Hell no, we won’t go).
At a minimum, I think this may account for rumors about coup plans to oust Zelensky. Zelensky clearly is losing critical support among the Ukrainian troops. I think it is only a matter of time before commanders start to follow.
He's filling his diaper like Biden before breakfast.
and restrain their panicked desire for peace
Sounds like The Joek’s pointy-toothed little neocon puppeteers are still thirsty for the blood of Ukie and Russian youths.
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Eerily reminiscent of the drones in Shanghai telling prisoners to restrain their longings for freedom.
Are you talking about FReepers for whom there is substantial evidence that they are acting in bad faith by making pro-Putin postings, personal attacks, using invective, and deliberately fomenting dissent in the ranks here at FR?
I can provide you with a list (and a simple search of FR postings disaggregated "by user" will provide you all the evidence you need).
Private-message me, if you're interested.
Regards,
You are!
Forget trying to private-message me!
Regards,
Ha!!
Since it’s your list, I’ll consider it an honor.
I note you posted no links of any FReeper who is wishing for the demise of destruction of America.
What a fantasy you spin.
Cathi is on the Russian payroll. Look at her posting history. Except for some old posts, ALL of her recent posts are anti-Ukrainian propaganda from almost exclusively pro-Russian sources. Her account should be banned.
Your old account, or more than a few of them, have already been banned.
The fact that you slander people with false accusations says a lot about you. You are disgusting and obviously stupid.
That’s ok you all made fools of yourselves with childish gay jokes. It’s obvious to everyone not to take you seriously on issues of national security.
Posting a letter from a Russian commander about his meeting with a Ukrainian commander about burying the dead Ukrainian soldiers and giving instructions in how the survivors could surrender is not a “childish gay joke.”
You have obvious cognitive problems. Don’t try to foist them on me.
The territorial brigades are being sent to slaughter ill equipped
Don’t blame them
You have zero moral authority to complain about propaganda
We are drowning in it from your compadres
One has to work quite hard to find anything to the contrary
Larry Johnson has credentials
You and your whole froup were revealed a clowns.
As is flake Larry Johnson who you billed as an intelligence analyst when he’s been a buffoon for decades.
Anytime who would analyze a war by going on about a nation’s president as a “boy lover”, is irrelevant.
No one cares what you say you’ve been outed.
Yeah you’ve all got credentials to analyze wars when you post about people who disagree being “fudge packers”.
Your credibility is as dead as the Russian army.
No worse than yours
Who now apes the media
At least I don’t do that
Am I to assume you also now believe the media on
Jan 6
Covid
The election
The economy
Guns
Or do you simply pick that which fits your narrative
Make no mistake
You are indeed in the fudge packer lane
Precious little from corporate media is proven to have veracity on anything including this war which they are propagandizing ....promoting lies....on a level unprecedented
It’s not working
Most Americans do not support the level pro war Freepers do
Sure you can drive into leftist enclaves in cities and see Uke flags hanging alongside the homosexual banner but they’ll support anything the democrats and their media partners support
Out where I live....70-75% Trump country....you see almost none of that and people are skeptical about what they are being spoonfed
I seek out alternative info outside the western propaganda
I doubt you make the effort
I can’t avoid the propaganda ....Marcus and Seek make sure we see it..lol
This is the last time I am going to respond to you. You are ignorant beyond compare and apparently have significant reading challenges.
A post calls “Arestovych a “boy lover” and you keep repeating “a nation’s president as a ‘boy lover’. I assume even someone with as limited a capacity as you obviously have knows that Arestovych is not the president of Ukraine.
A post from a Russian commander is not a post from Larry Johnson. You got “confused” about that one, too.
You lash out at everyone with vulgar, profane language and false accusations. You are pathetic and vile and I will in the future give you the attention you deserve: NONE
I have only had two accounts here ever. My original account was created way back during the Bush vs Gore days I believe and was this account name in reverse. I stopped posting over the years and forgot the password and lost access to the email it was created under so I created this account recently. Never been banned or tried to hide under made up accounts like so many of the Russian shills here. Russia has used every conflict in the world since WWII to fight against American interests through financial, political, and military means so I find it absolutely disgusting there are so many shilling for Russia here. The biggest mistake made in regards to China and Russia was ever allowing them to participate in western economies without true and lasting democratic reforms. Now the west has had a wake up call. China and Russia should be gradually phased out until those reforms someday happen.
Actually, Russia and China are going to phase out the deadbeats in the US and Europe, getting rid of their fiat digital Monopoly money, like the former petrodollar and the Euro.
Stealing the foreign reserves of Russia woke up a LOT of governments about the kleptocrats in Washington and Brussels.
Sorry you and your group totally disqualified yourselves with gay nonsense.
I hope you don’t respond to me you are pointless.
I don’t ape anybody and my analysis of our national security does not rely on high school mentality gay slurs.
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