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A surprise thaw in US-China relations?
Asia Times ^

Posted on 06/04/2022 4:25:32 AM PDT by FarCenter

NEW YORK – It’s not yet a new consensus, but too many influential American and Chinese policymakers are saying sensible things to dismiss the possibility that the world’s two most powerful countries may back away from a confrontation.

Perhaps the horrible example of the Ukraine war persuaded all parties to pull back from the brink. Washington learned it could not cripple or isolate Russia, and that its intervention risked touching nuclear tripwires; China concluded that the costs of a showdown with the United States are prohibitive; and America’s Asian allies recalled Henry Kissinger’s bon mot that it is dangerous to be an enemy of the United States, but fatal to be its friend.

US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen’s emphasis on eliminating the Trump tariffs on Chinese imports, moreover, reflects a sober estimate of America’s economic vulnerability.

China met the lion’s share of the US$6 trillion in consumer demand created by the US government in response to Covid. Removing the tariffs is the one tool at the disposal of the beleaguered Biden administration that would mitigate inflation, the main cause of its plummeting popularity.

President Joe Biden’s May 23 affirmation in Tokyo that the US would use force to defend Taiwan from a mainland invasion appeared to ditch America’s stance of strategic ambiguity, although White House officials tried to walk the statement back.

Biden’s gaffe – or threat, if you prefer – raised the specter of war: If China believes the US plans an independent Taiwan, the logic of war requires it to act pre-emptively.

As Air Force strategist and Stanford professor Oriana Skylar Mastro warned in a May 27 New York Times op-ed: “China’s missile force is … thought to be capable of targeting ships at sea to neutralize the main US tool of power projection, aircraft carriers.

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1 posted on 06/04/2022 4:25:32 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Be right back I have to wipe my a$$ with this Chinese propaganda.


2 posted on 06/04/2022 4:29:30 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: FarCenter

If true, it just means the Chinese have opened the valve on the money pipeline to Washington a bit wider.


3 posted on 06/04/2022 4:32:17 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: Rlsau1

4 posted on 06/04/2022 4:38:26 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Just like Biden dropped sanctions and increased oil imports from Russia before they invaded Ukraine, now Biden is dropping tariffs and increasing imports from China before their invasion of Taiwan.

The “toughest sanctions” ever on China will be to return to where they are today....and just like the sanctions on Russia, will do nothing significant to hurt China.


5 posted on 06/04/2022 4:45:03 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: FarCenter

What a load of dragon crap.


6 posted on 06/04/2022 4:54:01 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: FarCenter

No. Collaboration.


7 posted on 06/04/2022 5:02:28 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: FarCenter

This isn’t a “thaw”, this is just the Mandarins collecting on their investment. Coolie Joe bows and scrapes accordingly.


8 posted on 06/04/2022 5:06:35 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Sirius Lee

“This isn’t a “thaw”, this is just the Mandarins collecting on their investment. Coolie Joe bows and scrapes accordingly.”

Exactly.


9 posted on 06/04/2022 5:13:03 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Williams

The terriffs are causing the inflation?


10 posted on 06/04/2022 5:16:00 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: FarCenter

11 posted on 06/04/2022 5:16:12 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: FarCenter

“Okay, 15% for the big guy. You keep humper biden away from Chinee girl.”

~Xi


12 posted on 06/04/2022 5:36:06 AM PDT by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: FarCenter

Learning the wrong lesson, the lesson they should learn is the Financial Interests will never have true political power or Russia would never have invaded.


13 posted on 06/04/2022 6:08:15 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Rlsau1

As long as ChiCom crap floods our store shelves, there is no reason to believe our leaders are anything but best buddies - and there is no reason to believe we will defend Taiwan.


14 posted on 06/04/2022 6:09:06 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Actually, there is a very good reason for believing that Taiwan will be defended.

At present, there are navies of several, perhaps many, nations active in the South China Sea. They are a DeFacto Taiwan defense force. They are an active and visible anti China lose coalition

Principle are the Quad navies......USA, India, Australia and Japan. There are others including the Netherlands, the UK, the Philippines and South Korea. I think that even Singapore is involved in the effort

China is being pushed around on the high seas


15 posted on 06/04/2022 6:16:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: FarCenter

Total BS! They just went to Plan B.


16 posted on 06/04/2022 6:21:28 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: bert

We’ve transferred much of our manufacturing process to Red China; we are basically joined at the hip. While other countries may have a good reason to defend Taiwan (as the first of many dominoes), our leaders have no motivation to do so - and those countries who would defend Taiwan will probably have to do it without our support.

There is no reason to believe any European country would be involved; as with Vietnam, they couldn’t justify it to their citizens/voters/taxpayer (and generally have small, defensive militaries). India has and always will look out for just India; while they have played up their relationship with the US in the post-Cold War world, they have no alliance or common culture with the West.


17 posted on 06/04/2022 6:28:28 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

If you kept up, you would know that Foreigners, including Americans, are leaving or have left China.

Operations are being moved elsewhere, especially vietnam and Mexico. Some operations are being ceased and next generation actually coming home to America


18 posted on 06/04/2022 6:38:34 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: FarCenter

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19 posted on 06/04/2022 6:54:31 AM PDT by sauropod (What we’re living through is not an unintentional accident: it’s the American Holodomor.)
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To: FarCenter

The money transfer made it to the bank.


20 posted on 06/04/2022 7:07:15 AM PDT by bgill (Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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