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POLITICS Bipartisan discussions on "red flag" laws make progress as Sens. Graham, Blumenthal revise gun control proposal
See BS ^ | UPDATED ON: JUNE 1, 2022 / 7:52 AM | BY ROBERT COSTA

Posted on 06/01/2022 10:05:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina, and Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal, of Connecticut, are making progress as they hammer out details of revised "red flag" legislation that they both hope can win sufficient GOP support to overcome a filibuster in the Senate, according to four people familiar with the discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly.

Graham and Blumenthal later confirmed in statements to CBS News that their discussions are making progress.

In recent days, the two have been having frequent phone calls and have been working closely together to review a "red flag" bill they co-sponsored in 2019, making revisions that they believe can enable a similar, tweaked proposal to win wide support in the divided Senate, the four people told CBS News.

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The only way a Red Flag law could have made a difference is if the law monitored a person's propensity to torture animals (a frequent symptom of sociopathy), and to track if they made a threat of a mass shooting, especially to a school (Which is something California specifically banned tracking).

... and I'm not sure how you implement those metrics practically.

The only encouraging news out of this is that there appear to be strict criteria and a well-defined and rapid appeal process.

In practice, state Red Flag laws have been used sparingly, but at a Federal level I could see this rapidly spinning out of control. The potential for abuse is too high.

1 posted on 06/01/2022 10:05:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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Indeed. The potential for swatting is enormous.


2 posted on 06/01/2022 10:07:06 AM PDT by abb
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Any red flag law needs to have a provision that any racial or sex disparities may be warranted.


3 posted on 06/01/2022 10:08:18 AM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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“....Graham and Blumenthal later confirmed in statements to CBS News that their discussions are making progress.”....

oh, brother.....Blumenthal is an absolute snake and if Graham actually believes that some sort of “progress” is being made (progress being steps toward taking away ALL of our guns, not just AR-15s...), then he is a bigger fool than we thought he was....


4 posted on 06/01/2022 10:09:53 AM PDT by TokarevM57
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They’re not called Red Flag Laws by accident.

Every conservative person in America already has a red flag on their record just waiting to be activated.


5 posted on 06/01/2022 10:10:37 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)
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To: Lazamataz

If someone is a danger to themselves or others, they need to be locked up, period.


6 posted on 06/01/2022 10:14:07 AM PDT by fruser1
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The only way a Red Flag law could have made a difference is if the law monitored a person's propensity to torture animals

Yes, I'd like more detail on his animal abuse. I believe he should have been prosecuted for that.

7 posted on 06/01/2022 10:16:48 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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The Rinos are raising their ugly heads again.


8 posted on 06/01/2022 10:17:57 AM PDT by spincaster
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It’s my understanding that the Federal Government doesn’t have the authority of implement a “national” Red Flag law, all the bills be considered would do is offer grants if states wanted to enact their own. I’m guessing most Pro-Gun red states will politely decline.


9 posted on 06/01/2022 10:18:51 AM PDT by apillar
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Yes, I'd like more detail on his animal abuse. I believe he should have been prosecuted for that.

Both the Buffalo and the Uvalda shooters had animal abuse actions.

If they were more closely prosecuted, and made into a felony, these shootings could have been prevented.

10 posted on 06/01/2022 10:19:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (ELON MUSK IS THE CORPORATE VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP!)
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It’s my understanding that the Federal Government doesn’t have the authority of implement a “national” Red Flag law, all the bills be considered would do is offer grants if states wanted to enact their own. I’m guessing most Pro-Gun red states will politely decline.

The FedGuv doesn't have the authority NOW. Legislation could change that.

11 posted on 06/01/2022 10:21:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (ELON MUSK IS THE CORPORATE VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP!)
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New York statutes comprise the state’s anti-cruelty provisions. “Animal” includes every living creature except a human being. A person who overdrives, overloads, tortures or cruelly beats or unjustifiably injures, maims, mutilates or kills any animal, or deprives any animal of necessary sustenance, food or drink, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than one year, or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars, or by both.


12 posted on 06/01/2022 10:22:28 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Make it a felony for sadistic torture scenarios and we’d have something.


13 posted on 06/01/2022 10:24:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (ELON MUSK IS THE CORPORATE VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: All
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Hold on, Joe Biden’s own son lied on a Federal Firemarms Application, and nothing happened.



14 posted on 06/01/2022 10:37:04 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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Lindsey Graham F’s up everything. Intentionally.


Like Biden, he’s wrong on every effin Issue, for years.



15 posted on 06/01/2022 10:40:00 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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17 posted on 06/01/2022 10:42:00 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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I would consider a Red Flag Law as long as it included punishment for anyone making false charges, there was rigorous due process involved and an easy and no cost appeals process.


18 posted on 06/01/2022 10:42:20 AM PDT by Bayan
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If they pass red flag laws, we need to take note of every "yes" vote and ensure each and every one of them gets the red flag treatment they enabled. They need the kind of karmic consequences that Souter received on his New London "eminent domain" ruling.
19 posted on 06/01/2022 10:43:00 AM PDT by Myrddin
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20 posted on 06/01/2022 10:44:35 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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