Posted on 05/30/2022 8:05:02 AM PDT by Mariner
Luhansk Region’s Governor Serhiy Gaidai said on Monday (May 30) that Russian forces are advancing in the city’s southeastern and northeastern fringes.
This Ukrainian soldier on patrol near the town of Bakhmut, southwest of Sievierodonetsk, spoke of a nagging fear that his government could be drawn into negotiating an end to the conflict.
Sievierodonetsk - a key part of Moscow’s offensive in Donbas - is enduring fierce fighting and incessant shelling.
But Ukrainian forces' refusal to withdraw has slowed the Russian offensive.
This was the soldier, a former English teacher who gave his name as Dymytro:
"You know now what I'm most afraid of, now that the fighting is so intense, so tough? That we would be told "That's it, stop it, we have a ceasefire. Such things happened already in our history and I'm afraid that this could happen now when the situation is very tough for the country, that we'd be told that we have a ceasefire and we negotiate. Negotiated settlement can only happen on Ukrainian terms and at present if it happened it would be horror, it would be the end of the president's career and of them all. Because people went to defend Ukraine not for Zelenskiy but for Ukraine, and if we are now told, "That's it, we have a ceasefire, we negotiate peace terms" it will be very bad and it would dishearten patriots... all those patriotic, maybe not all but the majority of them and they would become disillusioned."
Repeated strikes also hit Kharkiv and the surrounding region on Sunday (May 29), according to a Reuters journalist on the ground.
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The Russia army moves like a glacier. Just don't get in its way.
The Russians are profiting handsomely from the uncertainties in the energy and food markets. They have no incentive at this point to conclude this quickly. The corrupt government in Ukraine is getting untold $Billions in foreign contributions; they have no incentive to conclude this quickly either. Those who believe that this will not drag out for who knows how long are deluding themselves.
Some countries like to set records for being the quickest to hang "Mission Accomplished!" banners. Others don't.
“Mission Accomplished!” banners
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That banner referred to the ship’s mission only, not the war; the media made it seem otherwise, as usual.
When Zelensky is living in Paris a year from now, I wonder if he will have more $$$$ than Suha Arafat, who may have over $1 billion in funds her husband stole.
It was stupid of Rove/Card/whoever to do it, and stupid for Bush to approve it. Stupid party = stupid games.
What was stupid was not explaining clearly what the banner was for.
“Negotiated settlement can only happen on Ukrainian terms and at present if it happened it would be horror, it would be the end of the president’s career and of them all.”
Sounds like a path to peace...
“Some countries like to set records for being the quickest to hang “Mission Accomplished!” banners. Others don’t.”
CLASSIC!
Nonsense. They don't hang banners like that every time a ship completes a mission. The President stood in front of it and said "In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." The banner was clearly a visual backdrop to a declaration of victory.
Trying to spin it otherwise afterwards doesn't change reality.
“What was stupid was not explaining clearly what the banner was for.”
They likely tried to. Very similar to Bush Sr. in the Supermarket. He says something like “very impressive” about the bar-code scanners being to wrap around packaging, deal with off-angles, etc. The media turns it into the first time Bush had ever been in a supermarket since scanners were first introduced (i.e., he was ‘out of touch’).
I've done four carrier deployments, two of which happened under Mr. Bush's watch.
Not once did we hang a "Mission Accomplished" banner.
Bush’s speech that day was largely about the work that had to be still done.
The ‘mission’ of entering Iraq, the longest Cavalry Charge in world history resulting in the occupation of Baghdad (and points along the way) was accomplished.
https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/05/20030501-15.html
If you have to explain it, it probably shouldn’t have been there.
We were told that the Russians were pushed back outside of artillery range. Huh.
If propaganda could have won this war, the Ukraine army would have already over-run Moscow.
There's an old saying about a picture being worth a thousand words. It doesn't matter what he said in his speech. The was just the means of delivering the subliminal message that we had won, and now the US won't have any more problems from that corner of the world. Practically nobody could tell you what he said in his speech, but nearly everyone who saw the images on TV remembers the message that was sent.
Of course, my disposition regarding these events has changed some in 19 years.
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