Posted on 05/28/2022 7:30:14 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
Ukraine has started receiving Harpoon anti-ship missiles from Denmark and self-propelled howitzers from the United States, Ukrainian Defence Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said on Saturday, saying the arms would bolster forces fighting Russia's invasion.
"The coastal defence of our country will not only be strengthened by Harpoon missiles – they will be used by trained Ukrainian teams," Reznikov wrote on his Facebook page.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
In 1992 it was all sovereign russian territory. In fact Russia started in Kiev.
The reality is the western Ukes and Kiev attacked people in the Donbass for their crime of opting out of the 2014 coup. They opted out of the coup to stop the immediate move towards ethnic cleansing. The Galician Ukes have been pounding them with artillery for 10 years.
And it’s comical to see the fulminating about “Russia is about to seize sovereign territory by armed force for the first time in decades.” when we have done that crap for decades. We broke Kosovo off Serbia and launched a brutal air war for over two months. We are in the process of helping a rebel movement break off a giant chunk of Syria at this moment.
Its a good thing that the Donbass finally got some help from the Nazi militias and Uke Army attacking them after 8 years. It’s a cherry on the cake that DC and the WEF are getting humiliated in the process. Weaking them both is good for freedom loving Americans.
> So in your view a country is required to endure any sort of outrage perpetrated by the corrupt neocon globalists rather than start a war? <
As I noted earlier, Putin had legitimate security concerns. NATO was pushing eastward without any regard for Russian sensibilities. And something very odd was going on in the Donbas region. Was Ukraine oppressing ethnic Russians there? Or was Ukraine just responding to Russian interference in the region? Who knows?
Regardless...if you’re going to start a bloody war you had better have a damn good reason. Innocents are going to get killed, and you risk an escalation by outsiders. Putin had his reasons. But they weren’t near good enough to start killing tens of thousands of people.
By the way, the same argument applies to George W. Bush and his invasion of Iraq. Bush had his reasons. But they weren’t near good enough. Putin and Bush are both war criminals.
That’s the way I see it. Your mileage may vary.
“But when he ordered his army to cross an international border everything else became trivial in comparison.”
So, crossing an international border with your military is against the rules? LOL the disconnect is strong in you. Libya, Syria, Serbia, Iraq, etc.
“Little Pukin is the richest man in the world because he stole so much from the RuZZian people”
CIA Baloney. The accounting method is just childish propaganda. If you applied it to a President you would assign him ownership of Camp David, Air Force one, every yacht he spent time on, etc etc.
Not from CIA. Your dear leader is one of the worlds greatest stealers of wealth.
“But according to some experts, he may be the wealthiest man in the world with assets totaling up to $200 billion.”
https://fortune.com/2022/03/02/vladimir-putin-net-worth-2022/
“You’re a democrat.”
Oh no. He called me a democrat... Been called much worse.
“...the globalist want Ukraine completely destroyed...”
And when Putin gets enough of getting hammered with foreign weapons from countries that were playing the game from the other side, meaning the trade game, how many people are going to die from starvation or natural reasons when he cuts off the natural gas and oil, metal, and wheat previously being traded because the foreigners got into a civil war they should not have?
Since the turn of the 20th century, the US has cost lives and funds that could have been used for us tossed away in these things we should not have been involved in.
Cuba - 1912, Nicaragua - 1912 to 1933, Haiti - 1915, Dominican Republic - 1916, Russian civil war - 1918, Korea - 1950, Vietnam - 1954, 1965, 1974, Laos - 1970, Lebanon - 1958, Cuba - 1961, Dominican Civil War - 1965, Korea - 1966, Cambodia - 1967, Lebanon - 1982, Granada - 1983, Libya - 1986, Panama - 1989, Gulf war - 1990, Somalia - 1991, Bosnia, Herzegovina and Croatia - 1992, Haiti - 1994, Kosovo - 1998, Afghanistan - 2001, Yemen - 2002, Iraq - 2003, Pakistan - 2004, Somalia - 2007, Libya - 2011, Uganda - 2011, Iraq - 2014, Syria - 2014, and Libya - 2015.
I did not put in anything that we were actually involved with like the world wars as we were fired upon, American Indian wars, Mexican wars, or related border protection from either the north or the south borders. Those were our civil wars. When is it going to stop that we mettle into other country’s problems where we have no horse in the race?
wy69
“...the globalist want Ukraine completely destroyed...”
And when Putin gets enough of getting hammered with foreign weapons from countries that were playing the game from the other side, meaning the trade game, how many people are going to die from starvation or natural reasons when he cuts off the natural gas and oil, metal, and wheat previously being traded because the foreigners got into a civil war they should not have?
Since the turn of the 20th century, the US has cost lives and funds that could have been used for us tossed away in these things we should not have been involved in.
Cuba - 1912, Nicaragua - 1912 to 1933, Haiti - 1915, Dominican Republic - 1916, Russian civil war - 1918, Korea - 1950, Vietnam - 1954, 1965, 1974, Laos - 1970, Lebanon - 1958, Cuba - 1961, Dominican Civil War - 1965, Korea - 1966, Cambodia - 1967, Lebanon - 1982, Granada - 1983, Libya - 1986, Panama - 1989, Gulf war - 1990, Somalia - 1991, Bosnia, Herzegovina and Croatia - 1992, Haiti - 1994, Kosovo - 1998, Afghanistan - 2001, Yemen - 2002, Iraq - 2003, Pakistan - 2004, Somalia - 2007, Libya - 2011, Uganda - 2011, Iraq - 2014, Syria - 2014, and Libya - 2015.
I did not put in anything that we were actually involved with like the world wars as we were fired upon, American Indian wars, Mexican wars, or related border protection from either the north or the south borders. Those were our civil wars. When is it going to stop that we mettle into other country’s problems where we have no horse in the race?
wy69
“In 1992 it was all sovereign Russian territory.”
Not quite. Ukraine declared independence in 1991. Every oblast in the country voted to sever ties to Russia.
Before that, it was the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, on paper an independent nation within the USSR, with the right to leave at any time. Not that the kremlin would ever let that happen before Gorby came along.
“In fact Russia started in Kiev.”
More accurately there was Ukraine before there was Russia.
“Galician Ukes”
Anyone using that term is a RuZZian.
where do you live in RuZZia?
So did we seize territory in Kosovo? Is there a 51st state I haven’t heard about?
“Libya, Syria, Serbia, Iraq,”
How much of those countries did the USA annex? ZERO.
Dirty RuZZian.
Are you another RuZZian?
I am sure you have., You’re not exactly anyone with common sense.
> So, crossing an international border with your military is against the rules? <
No, it totally depends on the situation. Sometimes you should, and sometimes you shouldn’t. Is the threat on the other side of that border so great that you must cross over, and start killing people?
The trick, of course, is deciding on just how great that threat must be. Bad things can happen if you overestimate the threat. Bad things can also happen if you underestimate it.
If we can keep Ukraine out of Russia’s hands it will free up a generation or two from Russia’s eternal threat and it’s always seeking to do harm.
Whether I was civilian or military, Russia has always been a threat to me and mine, and the world.
“Its a good thing that the Donbass finally got some help from the Nazi militias and Uke Army attacking them after 8 years
Either you don’t know or are ignoring the fact that the Russians invaded Ukraine in 2014 to aid the Donbas separatists or that Russian military personnel have been there since that time (one of the reasons that Ukraine could not join NATO). I guess you either do not know or are purposefully omitting the fact that after UKraine and The Seperatists signed a cease fire agreement in February 2015, the Seperatists violated it within 48 hours with a full scale attack on the town of Debaltseve. Both sides have been shooting at each other ever since, it is hardly a one sided affair.
Even the far-left Washington Post admits its over for Ukraine:
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/the-washington-post-finally-admits-ukraine-is-losing-badly/
In a new article titled “Ukrainian volunteer fighters in the east feel abandoned,” WaPo reports that contrary to the triumphant narratives the western world is being spoon fed, many troops in eastern Ukraine have been surviving on one potato per day and deserting their posts because they feel their leaders have turned their backs on them and they’re being sent to certain death.
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