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Police face questions over response to Texas school shooting
The Washington Times ^ | May 26 | By Jake Bleiberg and Jim Vertuno and Elliot Spagat

Posted on 05/26/2022 8:54:18 PM PDT by RandFan

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Law enforcement authorities faced questions and criticism Thursday over how much time elapsed before they stormed a Texas elementary school classroom and put a stop to the rampage by a gunman who killed 19 children and two teachers.

Investigators were also unable to say with any certainty whether an armed school district security officer outside Robb Elementary in the town of Uvalde exchanged fire with the attacker, 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, when Ramos first arrived on Tuesday.

The motive for the massacre - the nation’s deadliest school shooting since Newtown, Connecticut, a decade ago - remained under investigation, with authorities saying Ramos had no known criminal or mental health history.

During the siege, which ended when a U.S. Border Patrol team burst in and shot the gunman to death, frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the school, according to witnesses.

“Go in there! Go in there!” women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who watched the scene from outside a house across the street.

Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw said Wednesday that 40 minutes to an hour elapsed from when Ramos opened fire on the school security officer to when the tactical team shot him.

“The bottom line is law enforcement was there,” McCraw said. “They did engage immediately. They did contain (Ramos) in the classroom.”

But a department spokesman said Thursday that authorities were still working to clarify the timeline of the attack, uncertain whether that period of 40 minutes to an hour began when the gunman reached the school, or earlier, when he shot his grandmother at home.

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Wow on twitter I'm seeing a lot of anger at the cops.

"Turn in your badges"

"Cowards"

etc.

1 posted on 05/26/2022 8:54:18 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

They were ostensibly trained to go into danger armed. Unarmed parents were willing to do the job. It is like firemen only wetting down the neighboring properties during a house fire (which they have been know to do when the property in question is an empty crack house, but not normally).


2 posted on 05/26/2022 8:59:39 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("It's one thing if it's a minor incursion" - Joe Biden)
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To: RandFan

Just a thought......

Was the Texas school shooting a manufactured incident?

Some of you may recall an incident by the name of “Fast and Furious” When in 2009-2011 the ATF started the Fast and furious program allowing firearms to be smuggled from US gun stores into the arsenal of Mexican drug cartels. At the time a lot of killings took place and the idea behind was to turn public opinion against guns. Initially before it became known that the ATF was behind this scheme Hillary Clinton was one of the most outspoken opponents of this scheme, pushing for ever more gun control. However once it became public knowledge that actually the US government was behind this scheme, Hillary suddenly ceased talking about it and fell silent. Apparently things didn’t quite work out the way she hoped.

One of the biggest obstacles to a full fledged dictator ship is a population armed to their teeth and “Fast and Furious” was to serve as step towards getting more guns out of civilian hands, but this time it did not quite work out, which of course did not discourage the “Powers to be” to try other ways and means to rile up the public and what better way than some mass shootings and what better way than when a bunch of kids are involved.

I wouldn’t pass anything by the US government as heinous it may sound as there appear to be a good number of unscrupulous people within our government who will push the agenda for a so called “New World Order” come hell and high water, even if it comes at the expense of some innocent life’s. The whole idea being is to whip up the public opinion against guns, as without the public going along with control, it most likely would fail. It should not come as a surprise if we will see more similar incidents. The following article just happens to point into this direction.

Where did a poor kid who works at Wendy’s come up with $5,000 to buy all this gear?

He also reportedly drove a really nice car on top of that. Was he on somebody’s payroll?

Four years of being MK-Ultra’d in the “mental health” system

It also appears that Ramos was brainwashed for four years in the local mental health system after being arrested in 2018 and charged with Conspiracy to Commit Murder. According to KENS5.com, two teens were arrested in 2018 — one of them fits the profile Ramos — after they make explicit threats to replicate the Columbine, Colorado shootings during their senior year.

Ramos would have been 14 at the time. As KENS5.com reports:

In the press release, Uvalde Chief of Police Daniel Rodriguez said that a Morales Junior High School student,14, and a former Morales student, 13, had specifically targeted numerous students in what they described as a plan to perform a “mass casualty event against the school.”

All News Pipeline explains more in their story, “The Deep State Had 4 Years To Get This One Right And They Still Blew It With MKUltra Written All Over Uvalde, Texas Massacre – In 2018, A ‘Uvalde Student Promised A 2022 School Slaughter’.”

As this May 3rd of 2018 story at KENS5 pointed out, it appears they knew ALL about this kid’s goals of carrying out a mass shooting, even pegging a future Uvalde, Texas school shooting to the year 2022! Giving the ‘deep state’ 4 full years to further train him and indoctrinate him, there’s little doubt he was ‘groomed’ by ‘professionals’ to carry out his carnage.


3 posted on 05/26/2022 9:00:54 PM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Gee, you’d almost think that they wanted it to play out before they went in.


4 posted on 05/26/2022 9:01:49 PM PDT by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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To: saintgermaine

All News Pipeline explains more in their story, “The Deep State Had 4 Years To Get This One Right And They Still Blew It With MKUltra Written All Over Uvalde, Texas Massacre – In 2018, A ‘Uvalde Student Promised A 2022 School Slaughter’.”

As this May 3rd of 2018 story at KENS5 pointed out ...


Do you have any links?


5 posted on 05/26/2022 9:04:03 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Noumenon

Starting to look like it.


6 posted on 05/26/2022 9:08:17 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: Noumenon

These cops have no honor. If they did they would have already suck started their pistols.

L


7 posted on 05/26/2022 9:11:09 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is)
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To: RandFan

Like in Parkland.
There were two armed officers on premises. They both took the defensive stand and did NOTHING.
There were also two unarmed officers. They both tried to stop the shooter and both got killed!


8 posted on 05/26/2022 9:18:10 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: RandFan

Firefighters are paid to run into burning buildings to save lives, and police are paid to run into danger zones to save lives.

It’s a hard job, it’s a dangerous, but it is your job.


9 posted on 05/26/2022 9:28:15 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: RandFan

The government is not going to help us.


10 posted on 05/26/2022 9:33:55 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback for how the election & Covid was handled.)
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To: saintgermaine

I’m leaning in your direction.


11 posted on 05/26/2022 9:37:01 PM PDT by Maudeen (https://ThereIsHopeInJesus.com)
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To: RandFan

There’s been a ton of police hatred on this site as well.


12 posted on 05/26/2022 9:42:12 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They deserve all of it. I saw what they did to Trump supporters at the rallies.


13 posted on 05/26/2022 9:52:54 PM PDT by roving
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To: RandFan

risk aversion writ large...


14 posted on 05/26/2022 9:59:48 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

And Crap like this gives people more reason to hate the police.

Sooner people realize cops are not on the side of the peasants, the better


15 posted on 05/26/2022 10:00:36 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Buy JHP ammo, Level 3/4 armor and rifles. Won’t be able to for much longer, and we’re gonna need em)
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To: saintgermaine

It has been repeatedly reported that he worked full time at Wendy’s after dropping out of school and the truck was stolen from his grandmother after he shot her in the face.


16 posted on 05/26/2022 10:08:43 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: RandFan

And I have read that they had a gun battle outside the school for 12 minutes before he entered.

That is certainly more than enough time for someone to hear the gunshots and lock the school down, including locking all the classroom doors.


17 posted on 05/26/2022 11:29:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith… )
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To: RandFan
“The bottom line is law enforcement was there,” McCraw said. “They did engage immediately. They did contain (Ramos) in the classroom.”

That's cheap double-talk. Ramos entered the building unimpeded by police. Ramos contained himself in the classroom. After the cops pulled back and gave him space, he could have moved anywhere he wanted to.

Cops have a dirty job. I wouldn't do it. But, it's the job they chose. However, my dad was a cop (and a vet), and I remember two incidences where there was no time to wait and he had to act alone to save lives, and risked getting killed himself. Both times he said that if you aren't prepared to confidently face that situation, then you need more training, or find another job.

18 posted on 05/27/2022 12:16:58 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: Lurker

Since you know exactly what took place why don’t you explain what happened.


19 posted on 05/27/2022 2:18:04 AM PDT by Ajnin (Don't be a pansy, embrace the fireball.)
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To: RandFan

We are seeing the falling of a myth about “police” and what they do.

Look at the riots of last summer, the FBI, Capitol Police, ATF, DEA, Ruby Ridge, WACO.

It’s a myth, we’ve been fed BS.


20 posted on 05/27/2022 2:21:58 AM PDT by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence)
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