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Do The World's Religions Agree with AOC on Abortion?
Townhall.com ^ | May 24, 2022 | John Nanz

Posted on 05/24/2022 7:08:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) is known for her vapidity. She’s a social media diva who sprinkles platitudes between earnest and detailed expositions of her latest makeup hacks. Her fans lap up her pablum the same way they fawn after and devour the crumbs other glitterati brush from their tables. She’s a Tesla-driving, new money elite who panders to low-income minorities, twisting their pain, frustration, and grief into adulation and political power—oh, and she plays a congresswoman on the side, representing New York’s 14th congressional district.

AOC is truly a sign of our times, shallow, greedy, and desperately ignorant. But last Thursday, May 19th, AOC dipped her well manicured toe into the deep end of the pool on YouTube.

Rambling about Roe v. Wade and the larger abortion issue AOC said, “There are so many faiths that don’t have the same definition of life as fundamentalist Christians.” AOC went on to claim that defining life at conception is “theocratic...and wrong.” First, the word “wrong” seems strange coming from someone whose value system is defined by the expedient. Right and wrong are the purview of religion, and AOC’s Vatican is state power. She’s no different from the long line of would-be and actual totalitarians who claim the mantle of moral authority in the name of the state.

It’s also strange that she’d use the word “theocratic.” She’s not a serious person, so meaning and context is lost on her, but she’s in favor of imposing raw statist power on those whose religious beliefs conflict with her Marxist agenda. She’s more comfortable with the capricious diktats that issue from the state, than with the moral law of God proved practical, just, and wise by millennia of human experience. We all serve a master. There’s just no escaping it. All AOC has to offer are the hollow promises of the collectivist, the fascist, the socialist, the progressive, the democrat—all synonymous in our day. The secular state has a history as well, and it is steeped in blood and misery. AOC is simply too avaricious to see that truth.

The world’s religions do not agree with AOC’s infanticidal fervor. The world’s five major religions—Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism do not agree on much of anything, but they do agree with surprising consistency on protecting the life of unborn children. It seems, except for the demons that statism spawns, murdering children is universally abhorred.

Islam boasts 1.8 billion followers, according to the World Atlas. Islam, or more appropriately, Muhammadism began in Mecca in the seventh century A.D. Muhammad, Islam’s prophet, lived from 570 to 632 A.D. The infanticide question has been obfuscated by liberalism in religious practice as well as in politics, but the orthodox position of Muslims for the last two thousand years has been fairly consistent and based on passages from the Koran, Islam’s holy book. “And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right.” (Our’an 17:33) Also, “Do not kill your children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them.” (Our’an 6:151) These passages, as well as Shari’ah provisions support the majority view condemning abortion except when the life of the mother is in imminent danger.

Judaism claims 14 million followers and began with the patriarch Abraham some three to four millennia ago. As with Islam, liberal Judaism seeks to depart from orthodoxy and create a space within Judaism for infanticide. However, the weight of long history is on the side of the right to life. The principal Biblical source for Jewish law on abortion is Exodus 21: 22, 23. The passage describes a hypothetical fight between two men that results in a woman being battered and subsequently suffering a miscarriage and live birth. Given the Torah’s clear presupposition of life beginning at conception (see Psalm 139: 13-16) the meaning in Exodus 21 must be the fetus as a living soul. Any harm to the fetus resulting in death is to be met with “life for life,” executed by the state.

Hinduism has 1.1 billion followers and is an ancient religious system. The classical and authoritative Hindu texts, the Vedas and Upanishad forbid abortion except when the life of the mother is threatened. The Satapatha Brahmana compares those who eat beef with those who perform abortions. And the Kaushitaki Upanishad (1.2 UpR, 774) describes abortion as the moral equivalent of killing one’s parents. Also, the Atharva Veda (6.113.2 HE, 43) lists the fetus slayer as among the most vile sinners.

Buddhism is followed by approximately 500 million people worldwide. According to Buddhist teachings, life—rebirth—begins at conception. So, in accord with the Five Precepts the taking of life is an immoral act. The fetus is considered a sentient being and interfering with the developing life generates tremendous negative karma.

It’s also strange that she’d use the word “theocratic.” She’s not a serious person, so meaning and context is lost on her, but she’s in favor of imposing raw statist power on those whose religious beliefs conflict with her Marxist agenda. She’s more comfortable with the capricious diktats that issue from the state, than with the moral law of God proved practical, just, and wise by millennia of human experience. We all serve a master. There’s just no escaping it. All AOC has to offer are the hollow promises of the collectivist, the fascist, the socialist, the progressive, the democrat—all synonymous in our day. The secular state has a history as well, and it is steeped in blood and misery. AOC is simply too avaricious to see that truth.

The world’s religions do not agree with AOC’s infanticidal fervor. The world’s five major religions—Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism do not agree on much of anything, but they do agree with surprising consistency on protecting the life of unborn children. It seems, except for the demons that statism spawns, murdering children is universally abhorred.

Islam boasts 1.8 billion followers, according to the World Atlas. Islam, or more appropriately, Muhammadism began in Mecca in the seventh century A.D. Muhammad, Islam’s prophet, lived from 570 to 632 A.D. The infanticide question has been obfuscated by liberalism in religious practice as well as in politics, but the orthodox position of Muslims for the last two thousand years has been fairly consistent and based on passages from the Koran, Islam’s holy book. “And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right.” (Our’an 17:33) Also, “Do not kill your children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them.” (Our’an 6:151) These passages, as well as Shari’ah provisions support the majority view condemning abortion except when the life of the mother is in imminent danger.

Judaism claims 14 million followers and began with the patriarch Abraham some three to four millennia ago. As with Islam, liberal Judaism seeks to depart from orthodoxy and create a space within Judaism for infanticide. However, the weight of long history is on the side of the right to life. The principal Biblical source for Jewish law on abortion is Exodus 21: 22, 23. The passage describes a hypothetical fight between two men that results in a woman being battered and subsequently suffering a miscarriage and live birth. Given the Torah’s clear presupposition of life beginning at conception (see Psalm 139: 13-16) the meaning in Exodus 21 must be the fetus as a living soul. Any harm to the fetus resulting in death is to be met with “life for life,” executed by the state.

Hinduism has 1.1 billion followers and is an ancient religious system. The classical and authoritative Hindu texts, the Vedas and Upanishad forbid abortion except when the life of the mother is threatened. The Satapatha Brahmana compares those who eat beef with those who perform abortions. And the Kaushitaki Upanishad (1.2 UpR, 774) describes abortion as the moral equivalent of killing one’s parents. Also, the Atharva Veda (6.113.2 HE, 43) lists the fetus slayer as among the most vile sinners.

Buddhism is followed by approximately 500 million people worldwide. According to Buddhist teachings, life—rebirth—begins at conception. So, in accord with the Five Precepts the taking of life is an immoral act. The fetus is considered a sentient being and interfering with the developing life generates tremendous negative karma.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: anotheraocthread; aoc; bloggers; newsforumabuse; notnews

1 posted on 05/24/2022 7:08:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

She reminds me of one of those “elites” in the futuristic movies that pits the haves against the have nots. I am glad she doesn’t represent my state or district.


2 posted on 05/24/2022 7:29:53 AM PDT by JoJo354 (Freedom first.)
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To: Kaslin
She’s a Tesla-driving, new money elite

And this after only one and a half terms in Congress.

ML/NJ

3 posted on 05/24/2022 7:32:12 AM PDT by ml/nj ("If the Representatives of the People betray their Constituents ..." Federalist #28; READ IT!)
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To: ml/nj
And this after only one and a half terms in Congress.

3 years? She must be a multi millionaire by now.

4 posted on 05/24/2022 7:33:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Kaslin

Bookmark


5 posted on 05/24/2022 7:35:04 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Kaslin

As usual, “Her Holiness,” AOC is full of sh1t!


6 posted on 05/24/2022 7:35:40 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (I'll be good, I will, I will!)
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To: ml/nj

She also still owes less than $50,000 in student loans-—and she bought a new Tesla instead of paying off HER LOANS.

She still is begging for loan forgiveness...I am guessing that she has calculated that the EXTRA INCOME TAXES on the loan balance would be cheaper than the loan itself.


7 posted on 05/24/2022 7:41:20 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

Paying people back is for losers.

Probably why I repaid my debts except for on a hospital forgave during my living from the Church pantry phase, but I was paying on it till that happened.


8 posted on 05/24/2022 7:49:38 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Kaslin

“The world’s five major religions—Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism do not agree on much of anything, but they do agree with surprising consistency on protecting the life of unborn children.”

Yeah, but what about Satanism?


9 posted on 05/24/2022 8:24:25 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Kaslin

A shallow, greedy, and desperately ignorant and a all around c.u.n.t. .

Cant
Understand
Normal
Thinking

She’s just a socialist pimp with money


10 posted on 05/24/2022 8:35:54 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican; 1Old Pro; Kaslin; Vaduz

11 posted on 05/24/2022 9:48:01 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Remember when government paved the Roads and trained the Army – instead of lying and oppressing?)
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To: 4Liberty

LOL spot on well done


12 posted on 05/24/2022 10:04:06 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: Kaslin

Common Sense does not agree with the democrats and their stance on abortion and all other moral issues.


13 posted on 05/24/2022 10:12:08 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Kaslin

The new argument I’ve been hearing seems to be that the Roe v Wade argument is made by a small segment of religions - Catholic and evangelical Christians. And that the law ignores the rights of Jews who believe in abortion, and others whose religions don’t prohibit, but may limit, abortion. In arguing with my liberal friend, I looked it up on Google, which would tilt results, I admit, and found almost all articles assigning the standard middle of the road position to Jews - 1st trimester fine, antsy in the 2nd and against in the 3rd with the wider exceptions of mother’s life AND mother’s health. That mother’s health exception is what opens the door to anything goes in late abortions since it includes mental health. So the flat statements in the article here makes me question the rest of the article.


14 posted on 05/24/2022 11:17:32 AM PDT by mairdie (Lord of the Rings - Eye of the Tiger - Survivor - https://youtu.be/4QDMfyiszgc)
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To: Kaslin

Islam is not a religion.

Islam is a plan for war.

There is “Dar al Harb’’, ‘’The House of War’’. That means those countries or peoples who have not submitted to Islam and who must have war/terrorism waged against them until they submit to “Dar al Islam’’, “The House of Islam’’.


15 posted on 05/24/2022 11:28:56 AM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: mairdie
almost all articles assigning the standard middle of the road position to Jews... antsy in the 2nd and against in the 3rd with the wider exceptions of mother’s life AND mother’s health. That mother’s health exception is what opens the door to anything goes in late abortions since it includes mental health. So the flat statements in the article here makes me question the rest of the article.

I thought she covered it rather well by observing, "As with Islam, liberal Judaism seeks to depart from orthodoxy and create a space within Judaism for infanticide." That's pretty much the state of the art within Judaism, where the Biblical standards are always being challenged by the leftist/progressives. But starting with Orthodox Judaism and traveling slightly leftward through Conservative Judaism, you don't often find the heresies that you do in Reform and Reconstructing Judaism. It's analagous to the schisms that have taken place in so-called mainstream churches. You can't judge the one end of the spectrum by the other.

16 posted on 05/24/2022 12:13:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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To: 4Liberty

What is she signaling in the picture, five what?


17 posted on 05/24/2022 12:36:00 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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