Posted on 05/22/2022 6:22:40 AM PDT by karatemom
“We’ve all got cancerous cells in our body right this moment, but our immune system, if functioning properly, sniffs them out and destroys them before they can get a foothold and begin proliferating.”
Correct. It’s a 24/7/365 battle. Most things that kill you (disease-wise) can only do so because some other thing weakened your immune system. The flu kills almost no one. It’s the secondary infections that get you.
“As for his logic, he suggests that a shot that a hundred million people received is causing accelerated cancer.”
Well I suppose I am questioning it too. It may take years to collect the data on it since it is still relatively new. And maybe it’s not logical of me to say I wanted to wait and see what would happen. It’s certainly not logical to say I don’t trust anybody who is pushing it-and threatening our jobs if we don’t take it. And yet there it is. I. Don’t. Trust.
We may disagree but I am sorry for the loss of your sister. If I’m ever in Vermont I’ll buy you a cup of coffee. Or a beer.
Except that’s not how this vaccine was “designed.” It would not trigger against another coronavirus. In fact, there has never been a successful vaccine (stopping the virus dead in its tracks) against a corona virus. The reason is because they are notorious for their prolific mutations.
They reproduce a lot—and they reproduce poorly. That is why they are difficult to pin down. A Covid vaccine will not stop a coronavirus flu type.
The pox viruses tend not to mutate a lot. That is why small pox vaccine will shut down monkey pox.
My “problem” with the vax>cancer stories is that so many vaccines were given to so many people at different stages of their cancer treatment is that it will be almost impossible to “prove” any links for literally decades.
The “stories” are anecdotal. In this case, people are “looking for it” so when you see “it” , you are not looking at the population or other correlated or historical information.
It’s like looking for red pick-up trucks. You will notice more of them. But that doesn’t mean there are more of them on the streets.
The folks that brought us Global Warming?
Doctors do know more things than others do. Doesn’t make them perfect.
I think it is reasonable to check it out if it is happening with regularity.
I'm just not as inventive as they are.
“Except that’s not how this vaccine was “designed.””
Can you say “spike protein”?
That is the relatively stable common factor that many of the covid vaccines rely on. But every variant of a virus is, to some degree, a different virus, so vaccines are going to have varying degrees of effectiveness as the mutations occur. However, your claim that a corona virus vaccine doesn’t protect against other corona viruses is inaccurate. It protects against any that have the right set of features, and to some degree against any with at least some of the target features. There are just lots of variants. We only hear about the ones that survive because they have mutated enough AND still retain their ability to make you sick. The ones that are still similar enough are killed and the ones that don’t make you sick are not news.
Cowpox was the vaccine against smallpox, but it also protects against monkeypox. Flu viruses are not one virus that mutates on a regular basis, but rather a collection of distinct viruses that do so. So one vaccine for all variants of flu is not likely, but a vaccine would be effective against a group of variants, and any viruses that mutate into the group, while losing effectiveness against any that mutate out. Flu, the common cold, pneumonia, these are actually sets of symptoms that can be caused by lots of distinct viruses and bacteria, not a specific genome (for any of them).
Also, cowpox, for example, is a DNA virus, while covid is a RNA virus. DNA is far more stable than RNA. That’s why we don’t need a new smallpox vaccine every year. I would suggest that we can soon tailor RNA vaccines to target those specific features of groups of viruses that will be aligned with the genetic components that actually matter to humans, although this does carry with it some risks and should not be done in a hurried fashion.
With some basic research you can see that there are plenty of excess deaths in a lot of areas where we have robust statistics. Cancers, heart attacks, strokes, etc. These deaths ramped up with the advent of covid before the vaccines, and continued after the vaccines. The difference between before and after is in the distribution of the deaths. Many are now occurring in groups that normally don’t experience such things. There is only one logical explanation. Covid and the vax are both to blame, and that has to be due to the necessary inclusion of common features from covid in the vaccine. Necessary so that the immune system can “see” covid when it encounters the vaccine. Pretty much every vaccine has the issue of causing excess deaths for the same reasons.
The question is: what is the net cost in lives?
The pro-vax crowd believes the net cost is less with the vaccine, while the anti-vax crowd believes the opposite. Right now I believe that if you are healthy with no known issues, you should consider the vaccine, while if you are sickly, avoid the vaccine. This might seem backwards, but the logic is that if you are healthy, the vax shouldn’t hurt you and might protect you, while if you are sick you are best off avoiding *any* exposure, including to the vax. But without a serious statistical analysis, that is just gut.
you don’t even bother to watch the hearing and then you pathetically claim they’re making it up. why are you even here but for to slither around and spread disinformation? just like your father the serpent.
Cancer is actually a response to the “vaccines”. There have been increasing cases of cancer, not just due to missed screenings in 2020 and 2021 but the vax seems to cause cancers to be more aggressive.
It was great. The vax was shown to hurt people and the government and medical business keep it quiet so they can grab Fed Gov bucks for cases and deaths.
It’s almost like a planned money laundering operating.
Thanks...I understood it in reverse
Terrible situation but many don't ever want to question the ridulious group think going on.
The jabs actually reduce the body’s natural immuno response. Cancer cells develop and are eradicated often, by the immune response of a healthy body. The jabs reduce the healthy
Terrible situation indeed. I wish her the best.
Not sure about the group think you mention.
Deaths are up 40% since the vaccine. If close to the 40% death increase is related to the vaccine, then generally speaking close to 40% of the cases we all talk about are related to the vaccine.
I think most here see that. Most don't assume all of the deaths are vaccine related nor do I think that most dismiss the 40% estimate.
I am definitely sure many in this world don't see it and around here I belive it is higher than you think.
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