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Counterattack: How Ukraine Can Drive Russia Out (Part I
1945 ^ | 5/16/2022 | Daniel Davis

Posted on 05/17/2022 2:50:52 PM PDT by tlozo

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1 posted on 05/17/2022 2:50:52 PM PDT by tlozo
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They need lots more of our taxpayer money đź’°. I can another few thousand dollars. No problem.


2 posted on 05/17/2022 2:54:39 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: tlozo
Ukraine has already lost Mariupol, Kherson and Donbass.

Continuing to fight will only result in Ukraine shrinking further and thousands more dead Ukrainians.

Our buffoon of a Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin already admitted the goal of continuing to fight is to hurt Russia not Ukraine winning. But, Russia is getting stronger while Ukrainians continue to suffer.

Yes, it is time to do what President Trump said to do a few weeks ago -- negotiate an end to the war. Anyone not agreeing, should become a Democrat.

3 posted on 05/17/2022 2:54:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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Why not just wish for unicorns?

“What follows is the first part of a recommendation for a three-part plan. Ukraine could first blunt Russia’s advance into the Donbas. Then, Kyiv could create additional defensive lines to ensure Russia cannot break through the Donbas and put Kyiv at risk again. Finally, the Ukrainians could create a new national offensive strike force of 100,000 troops. This force could eventually launch a counteroffensive to drive Russia from Ukrainian soil.”


4 posted on 05/17/2022 2:57:20 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: Kazan

You are correct. Anyone who can read a battle map can see it.


5 posted on 05/17/2022 2:57:32 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Kazan
Continuing to fight will only result in Ukraine shrinking further and thousands more dead Ukrainians.

Ukrainians want to fight, believe they can win, and with western weapons...

Poll: 90% of Ukrainians Think They Can Beat Russia's Invasion

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/03/poll-90-of-ukrainians-think-they-can-beat-russias-invasion/

6 posted on 05/17/2022 2:58:48 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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7 posted on 05/17/2022 3:01:41 PM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: tlozo

With the elimination of all political opposition and the total control of the info sources by Zelenskyy it wouldn’t be surprising if the Ukrainians thought that the Azov Battalion was on the outskirts of Moscow and shelling the Kremlin.


8 posted on 05/17/2022 3:04:08 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Do you think the Russian Speaking Separatist Republics of Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea want to go back to Ukraine? If so, why have they been fighting for 8 years to gain their freedom?


9 posted on 05/17/2022 3:06:03 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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>Continuing to fight will only result in Ukraine shrinking further and thousands more dead Ukrainians.

This is what needs to be said over and over. Russia got their AZOV brigade. Just sign a treaty and send Zelensky back on dancing with the stars.


10 posted on 05/17/2022 3:08:11 PM PDT by struggle
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I agree with you on the later, and POTUS Trump, but there is one thing.

The radical groups within the Ukraine WILL NEVER, allow Zelensky to negotiate even a cease fire, say nothing about a peace agreement.

They’ll kill him at the drop of a hat.

Hell, they fought the Ukrainian regular army prior to this conflict in western Ukraine.


11 posted on 05/17/2022 3:08:31 PM PDT by crz
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With the elimination of all political opposition and the total control of the info sources

You're just making things up. Ukraine banned 11 pro-Russian parties. There are 300 official parties in Ukraine with many independent tv and radio stations, newspapers, etc. Ukraine is not Russia.

12 posted on 05/17/2022 3:10:16 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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This analysis is more like the analysis of a chess match than real war. Virtually no mention of logistics which is the key factor in the eventual outcome. The Russian politicians and high command probably believed that this war would be over in a week. The Achilles heel of the Russian army has always been logistics. Once the Ukrainians managed to significantly harass Russian naval operations in southeastern Ukraine, resupply problems which were bad became much worse. An army without food, fuel and ammunition is not much of an offensive threat and morale collapses quickly. The Ukrainians are using copious amounts of missiles and other ordnance. Unless constantly resupplied from the West, their operations will be limited.


13 posted on 05/17/2022 3:12:21 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Do you think the Russian Speaking Separatist Republics of Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea want to go back to Ukraine? If so, why have they been fighting for 8 years to gain their freedom?

What freedom? Crimea was semi-autonomous within Ukraine, now it is a Russian police state.

14 posted on 05/17/2022 3:12:35 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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And the ones that support Zelenskyy are the only one left.


15 posted on 05/17/2022 3:14:34 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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And the ones that support Zelenskyy are the only one left.

No, Ukrainians who barely supported Zelensky at 31% before the war, have united in anger and opposition to the Russian invasion. Nothing unites a country more than an external enemy, that has invaded, bringing death and destruction.

16 posted on 05/17/2022 3:21:27 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: JonPreston

Russia would do better if you were fighting for them. You really should go and help your favorite dictator murder people.


17 posted on 05/17/2022 3:30:45 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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Stalking time, Mr Stolen Valor?
18 posted on 05/17/2022 3:37:19 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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Go fight for Russia since you like them so much. Go. Begone.


19 posted on 05/17/2022 3:42:11 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: MercyFlush
#Fraud


20 posted on 05/17/2022 3:46:49 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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