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1 posted on 05/17/2022 1:33:53 PM PDT by elpadre
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from the article:

“..Earlier, the commander of the Azov Regiment, Denys Prokopenko, said that they had completed the task, and that it was important to save the lives of the military.

Also, Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov said that the defenders of Mariupol complied with the order and restrained the Russian invaders for almost 2 months, and now they are fulfilling the order to save their lives...”


2 posted on 05/17/2022 1:34:48 PM PDT by elpadre (W)
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It’s kinda similar on how the Germans evacuated from Stalingrad.


3 posted on 05/17/2022 1:36:09 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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The Nazov army tied down a lot of RUssian troops for a long time.


4 posted on 05/17/2022 1:36:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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83 days of resistance killing how many Russians and degrading and tying down how many BTGs? A major effect for such a small force.


5 posted on 05/17/2022 1:38:40 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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As the Japanese in WW2 suffered ever increasing losses the internal propaganda machine claimed ever more huge victories.

Nothing changes.


6 posted on 05/17/2022 1:39:17 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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It was a “heroic evacuation”.


8 posted on 05/17/2022 1:47:20 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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Having taken this long to have Russia have a win should be totally embarrassing. They did a find job defending their homeland against the invaders


9 posted on 05/17/2022 1:51:55 PM PDT by roving
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Its a victory for the Russians but the Ukrainians deserve medals every one. They went above and beyond.


11 posted on 05/17/2022 1:53:33 PM PDT by marron
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I’ve watched many many Ukro POW interviews via Telegram, as well as mercenaries, they all speak of disarray in the units, weapons that don’t fire or lack of ammo. And the normal conscripts are all afraid of the various Azov and SS battalions. The Russians are being very smart and filming all of this, unlike the Ukros who stupidly have been posting videos of atrocities on social media, all while bragging they don’t take prisoners. Well, they also leave their own wounded behind... luckily many have been picked up and treated by the DPR and Russian Forces. I also watched a longer video where about 50 Ukros were made to watch film footage of the atrocities their country ( not necessarioly them) committed in the Eastern Provinces over the last 8 years. Many were visibly upset, as this was primarily the purview of Azov and not the normal armed forces..


13 posted on 05/17/2022 1:57:52 PM PDT by Katya (lacking in the feelings department, )
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We’re not retreating, we’re just advancing in a different direction.”

Oliver P. Smith


16 posted on 05/17/2022 2:01:51 PM PDT by PGR88
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“I am sincerely outraged by the way this controversial event is presented by our authorities and the media. They are trying to file a forced surrender as a victory.”

The US State Dept and CIA controls all messaging on this subject.

Ukraine just does as they are told.


17 posted on 05/17/2022 2:02:43 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“French former Marine returns from Ukraine shocked”

French ex-soldier Adrien Bocquet spent three weeks in Ukraine and what he saw there will be etched on his mind forever, he said. Once back home he was dismayed to learn that the media keep inviting “experts” who have not been to Ukraine and have no idea what is going on there.

Speaking to French radio station Sud Radio, Adrien Bocquet said he had witnessed “a lot of war crimes“. All those war crimes were committed by Ukrainian soldiers and not by Russian soldiers, he pointed out.

Bocquet is therefore enormously alarmed that Europe is sending weapons to Ukrainian neo-Nazis. They wear all kinds of Nazi symbols on their uniforms. They do not hide these symbols. What is more, they boast about them, he said.

“I worked with them and gave them medicine. Do you know what they said? That they would skin Jews or blacks if they had the chance.” This certainly does not align with the mainstream narrative of saving “democracy” and “our values” in Ukraine.

“People can say whatever they want. I was there. I saw what happened there,” emphasised Bocquet, who says he has made many dozens of videos of war crimes. He saw in a barn Russian prisoners of war who had been beaten and tied up.

“Fighters from the Azov battalion asked them who the officers were. Each Russian soldier was shot in the knees with a Kalashnikov. I have videos that prove it, otherwise I would not dare to say such a thing.”

Officers were immediately shot in the head. “That’s how it goes, at least in the Azov battalion,” the French ex-marine said.

He went on to say that he had seen an American cameraman blatantly staging footage and the Ukrainian army hiding ammunition in homes at night without informing civilians.

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/05/14/french-former-marine-returns-from-ukraine-shocked/


22 posted on 05/17/2022 2:10:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Let's all have some sympathy for the Neo-Nazis. They ran out of human shields.
25 posted on 05/17/2022 2:25:12 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Any word on the non-Ukrainian “advisers” said to have been holed up in the steel plant along with the “nazis”? And why do so many words require “sneer quotes” nowadays?


29 posted on 05/17/2022 2:34:21 PM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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Estimate 8-16 thousand attempted to defend city and this is whats left of some of their best. Maripoul was about as important to Ukraine as it gets


33 posted on 05/17/2022 2:44:16 PM PDT by ALX
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Now that they have taken Mariupol they will head straight on the empty path to Odessa. It falls in two weeks.


35 posted on 05/17/2022 2:49:52 PM PDT by circlecity
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The whole thing is bizarre.


37 posted on 05/17/2022 2:52:32 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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The Russians evacuated Azov from the factory tunnels like we did the Japanese from the caves on Okinawa.


43 posted on 05/17/2022 3:04:52 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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