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They Are Trying To File Forced Surrender Of Azov As Victory - Harmash
ukranews.com ^ | May 17, 2022

Posted on 05/17/2022 1:33:53 PM PDT by elpadre

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To: Little Ray

“I am wondering if any members of the Azov Regiment are going to survive captivity.”

No.


21 posted on 05/17/2022 2:07:38 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: elpadre; MtnClimber; BobL

“French former Marine returns from Ukraine shocked”

French ex-soldier Adrien Bocquet spent three weeks in Ukraine and what he saw there will be etched on his mind forever, he said. Once back home he was dismayed to learn that the media keep inviting “experts” who have not been to Ukraine and have no idea what is going on there.

Speaking to French radio station Sud Radio, Adrien Bocquet said he had witnessed “a lot of war crimes“. All those war crimes were committed by Ukrainian soldiers and not by Russian soldiers, he pointed out.

Bocquet is therefore enormously alarmed that Europe is sending weapons to Ukrainian neo-Nazis. They wear all kinds of Nazi symbols on their uniforms. They do not hide these symbols. What is more, they boast about them, he said.

“I worked with them and gave them medicine. Do you know what they said? That they would skin Jews or blacks if they had the chance.” This certainly does not align with the mainstream narrative of saving “democracy” and “our values” in Ukraine.

“People can say whatever they want. I was there. I saw what happened there,” emphasised Bocquet, who says he has made many dozens of videos of war crimes. He saw in a barn Russian prisoners of war who had been beaten and tied up.

“Fighters from the Azov battalion asked them who the officers were. Each Russian soldier was shot in the knees with a Kalashnikov. I have videos that prove it, otherwise I would not dare to say such a thing.”

Officers were immediately shot in the head. “That’s how it goes, at least in the Azov battalion,” the French ex-marine said.

He went on to say that he had seen an American cameraman blatantly staging footage and the Ukrainian army hiding ammunition in homes at night without informing civilians.

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/05/14/french-former-marine-returns-from-ukraine-shocked/


22 posted on 05/17/2022 2:10:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mariner

The ones at Mariupol’ are one unit of a larger regiment fighting west of Popasna against the Wagner Group and the 4th NB.


23 posted on 05/17/2022 2:17:52 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Monterrosa-24

My father was from Kiev, family lived there since the 1600’s... they were russian culturally, never spoke Ukrainian. Most of the russians I know in the US are from Ukraine.. but Azov considers Mariupol their so-called spiritual home, no?


24 posted on 05/17/2022 2:24:07 PM PDT by Katya (lacking in the feelings department, )
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To: elpadre
Let's all have some sympathy for the Neo-Nazis. They ran out of human shields.
25 posted on 05/17/2022 2:25:12 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Magnum44

Kosovo enters the chat.

But you are correct. It takes a population willing to fight or a superpower willing to help.

Mariupol had both.

“You do know that Mariupol was still part of Ukraine, and it takes more than some local vote to break up a country, right?”


26 posted on 05/17/2022 2:25:37 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: 2banana

Not sure I see the parallel to Kosovo. I did not agree with that “NATO” intervention, for several reasons.

But as to ‘superpower willing to help’, I dont believe there is anything altruistic in Putin’s motives, nor did I see any ‘population’ of Ukraine joining the Russian ranks in the invasion.

More like the unhappy 10% of BLM’ers making a lot of noise and trouble for the 90% just trying to make a living.


27 posted on 05/17/2022 2:31:24 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

The militias of the DPR and LPR ARE EXACTLY THAT.

And are fairly professional and are winning conventional battles with the Ukrainian military to include taking most of Mariupol.

The more you know...

“But as to ‘superpower willing to help’, I dont believe there is anything altruistic in Putin’s motives, nor did I see any ‘population’ of Ukraine joining the Russian ranks in the invasion.”


28 posted on 05/17/2022 2:34:19 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: elpadre

Any word on the non-Ukrainian “advisers” said to have been holed up in the steel plant along with the “nazis”? And why do so many words require “sneer quotes” nowadays?


29 posted on 05/17/2022 2:34:21 PM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: Magnum44

Massive amount of equipment and arms heading to the Ukraine. Expect the Ukrainians to start clawing back hard these temporary Russian gains.

“There appears to be a massive Sealift Operation currently underway from the Eastern United States involving almost all USNS Ships in the Atlantic, including the USNS Soderman one of the Navy’s RORO Ships who left the Sunny Point Naval Yard yesterday heading likely toward Europe.”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4064070/posts


30 posted on 05/17/2022 2:36:44 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: 2banana

BLM and ANTIFA and other socialist groups are militias right here in the US. I dont grant them legal status or elevate them to legitimate actors just because they lawlessly exist and terrorize communities.

I prefer nations of laws. You seem to prefer nations of men, to sort of quote.


31 posted on 05/17/2022 2:40:19 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

“...More like the unhappy 10% of BLM’ers making a lot of noise and trouble...”

When the “separatists” movement began, the Russian operatives were able to identify, pay, and use the malcontents and nostalgic communists. They were able to bribe corrupt local officials. They were able to carrot and stick, plata o plomo, take bribe or you are dead, tactics with softer administrators and bureaucrats. But even with pouring in lots of money and special operatives, they had to commit disguised troops to really get it going in the Donbas. After that, certain strong Ukrainians were simply “disappeared”.


32 posted on 05/17/2022 2:40:35 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: elpadre

Estimate 8-16 thousand attempted to defend city and this is whats left of some of their best. Maripoul was about as important to Ukraine as it gets


33 posted on 05/17/2022 2:44:16 PM PDT by ALX
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To: Little Ray

“I am wondering if any members of the Azov Regiment are going to survive captivity.”

Nope, and Russia let them stew down there rather than risk any casualties.


34 posted on 05/17/2022 2:49:34 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: elpadre

Now that they have taken Mariupol they will head straight on the empty path to Odessa. It falls in two weeks.


35 posted on 05/17/2022 2:49:52 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Magnum44

“I get that its complicated politics. Complicated politics do not justify a lawless free for all invasion.”

No, but shelling civilians for sport will often lead to an invasion, as in the case of the Azovs.


36 posted on 05/17/2022 2:52:11 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: elpadre

The whole thing is bizarre.


37 posted on 05/17/2022 2:52:32 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: Magnum44

It really is kinda funny you trying to tie in BLM and ANTIFA to anyone who you don’t like with zero facts.

Here is a hint.

The legitimately elected president of the Ukraine was overthrown in a violent coup and Zelensky was put in power (2014).

Hmmmmm....that sounds much like BLM and ANTIFA.

And Zelensky’s first act?

Ban his opponents. Outlaw their language. Bankrupt their businesses. Even make it hard for them to buy food.

Hmmmmm...that sounds like BLM and ANTIFA.

The more you know...


38 posted on 05/17/2022 2:54:39 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: BiglyCommentary

I am skeptical of any large sea lift heading to Europe in support of a war in Ukraine, especially from this administration that like to play both sides.

I am not skeptical of the Ukrainian will to fight for their country, as evidenced over the last 10+ weeks.

The Ukrainians have always been the underdog in this war. Had russia actually played its cards right, and had their army not been so corrupt it let itself fall apart from disrepair before the invasion, this would have been over quickly. But the Russian army is not what it was touted, and the Ukrainians have put up incredible resistance.

Freepers here who seem to support Putins aggression and justify an invasion of a sovereign nation as the world seems to turn away from law and norms of behavior and embrace brutality may very well see a Russian ‘victory’, if one can call it that after such heavy cost in lives and people. But the amount of glee they derive from that seems sick. That is regardless of whether or not Ukraine has/had internal issues.


39 posted on 05/17/2022 2:54:43 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: BobL

Been an awful lot of shelling for sport by the russians since February. Whole city residential areas bombed out. Sorry if I find your comment less than honest or convincing.


40 posted on 05/17/2022 3:00:05 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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