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Russia's offensive in Eastern Ukraine has FAILED, says top propagandist as incredible pictures show inside of Azovstal steel plant and Russians bombard Ukrainians with thermobaric missiles
Daily Mail ^ | May 16, 2022 | Katie Feehan, Will Stewart, Jack Newman and Chris Pleasance

Posted on 05/16/2022 8:32:24 PM PDT by Widget Jr


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: agitprop; americalastrinos; chechens; chechnya; igorgirkin; invasion; neocons4biden; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; putlims; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; zelenskybots; zottherussiantrolls; zotthesorostrolls
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Igor Girkin, is a Russian national and the "Minister of Defence of the Donetsk People's Republic". Anonymous International reported from hacked emails he was a FSB officer from 1996 to 2013, before he got involved in Ukraine in 2014. He posted this on his Telegram channel, today, March 16:

Общий вывод:
С сожалением должен констатировать, что широко разрекламированная в конце апреля- начале мая операция по разгрому Донецкой группировки противника НЕ УДАЛАСЬ. За более чем две недели ожесточенных боёв (стоивших обеим сторонам очень больших потерь) достигнуты исключительно тактические успехи. Ни один крупный населенный пункт не освобождён (исключение - г.Рубежное, но бои за него начались раньше, чем началось наступление). Вероятно, определенных тактических успехов еще удастся достичь до того момента, когда противник перейдет в контрнаступление. Но уже ясно - до начала лета Донбасс полностью освобожден не будет. Вероятно, ВСУ даже не будут отброшены от пригородов Донецка.
И я не могу сказать, что данный результат является для меня неожиданным. Наоборот. Военное искусство требует от своих адептов наносить удары там, где враг их менее всего ждет. В нашем случае - замысел российского командования был настолько очевиден, местность - настолько-же выгодна для обороняющейся стороны, а соотношение сил - почти равное у обеих сторон, что рассчитывать на решительный успех мог, наверное, только ... наш Генеральный Штаб.
На данный момент наши войска втянулись в изматывающие наступательные бои, продолжая (как уже ранее отмечал) "играть по правилам, предложенным врагом". И дело даже не только и не столько в отдельных примерах "выдающегося головотяпства" (типа форсирования С.Донца), сколько в том, что понесенные в ежедневных наступательных боях (не заканчивающихся разгромом противника) потери не могут быть быстро компенсированы подготовленными пополнениями. В то время как враг продолжает лихорадочно готовить свои стратегические резервы. И где он нанесет свои удары, когда наши войска окончательно "выдохнутся" - никто не знает (хотя это тоже можно прогнозировать, но я этого делать публично не буду... пока не буду).

Что надо делать в текущей ситуации, когда стало ЯСНО, ЧТО ДАЖЕ ОГРАНИЧЕННОЕ ПОРАЖЕНИЕ ВРАГУ НАШИ ВОЙСКА В ПОЛЕВОМ СРАЖЕНИИ НАНЕСТИ НЕ МОГУТ и когда НАДО ГОТОВИТЬСЯ К ЗАТЯЖНОЙ ТЯЖЕЛОЙ КРУПНОМАСШТАБНОЙ ВОЙНЕ - я уже не раз писал и говорил. Пока в ответ выступил только "хороший друг всех ургантов" и заявил, что ничего этого делаться не будет... Ну-ну...

Which google translates too:

General conclusion:
I must state with regret that the operation to defeat the enemy's Donetsk grouping, widely publicized in late April-early May, FAIL. For more than two weeks of fierce fighting (which cost both sides very heavy losses), only tactical successes were achieved. Not a single large settlement was liberated (the exception is the city of Rubezhnoye, but the battles for it began before the offensive began). Probably, certain tactical successes will still be achieved before the moment when the enemy goes over to the counteroffensive. But it is already clear that Donbass will not be fully liberated before the beginning of summer. Probably, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not even be thrown back from the suburbs of Donetsk.
And I cannot say that this result is unexpected for me. Vice versa. The art of war requires its adherents to strike where the enemy least expects them. In our case, the intention of the Russian command was so obvious, the terrain was so beneficial for the defending side, and the balance of forces was almost equal on both sides, that only ... our General Staff could count on decisive success.
At the moment, our troops are drawn into exhausting offensive battles, continuing (as I have already noted) "to play by the rules proposed by the enemy." And the point is not only and not so much in individual examples of "outstanding bungling" (such as forcing S. Donets), but in the fact that the losses incurred in daily offensive battles (not ending in the defeat of the enemy) cannot be quickly compensated by trained replacements. While the enemy continues to frantically prepare its strategic reserves. And where he will deliver his blows, when our troops finally "run out of steam" - no one knows (although this can also be predicted, but I will not do this publicly ... until I do).

What should be done in the current situation, when it became CLEAR THAT OUR TROOPS CANNOT DEAL EVEN LIMITED DAMAGE TO THE ENEMY IN A FIELD BATTLE, and when it is NECESSARY TO PREPARE FOR A PROTRACTED HEAVY LARGE-SCALE WAR - I have written and said more than once. So far, only "a good friend of all Urgants" has responded and stated that nothing of this will be done ... Well, well ..."

I don't have Telegram installed, and don't know how to link to a specific telegram post. So to find this, you'll have to get Telegram or dig through his stream. The important point is, Daily Mail's reporting on what he said is accurate. He said the Russian operations in Donetsk are failing.

Girkin, more than anyone else on the Russian side, would be in a position to know.

1 posted on 05/16/2022 8:32:24 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

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2 posted on 05/16/2022 8:34:23 PM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: Widget Jr

If Gurkin says so then it is probably true. But not until Alex Jines weighted in.


3 posted on 05/16/2022 8:35:28 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Widget Jr

They’ll get a bit more truthful AFTER the $40B has passed Congress.


4 posted on 05/16/2022 8:35:52 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: Widget Jr
Cross References:
1. Putin the 'meddling colonel': Russian president is making tactical decisions as Ukrainian forces drives his army BACK to the border and top Kremlin propagandist says offensive in Eastern Ukraine has FAILED
2.
Putin involved in war ‘at level of colonel or brigadier’, say western sources
5 posted on 05/16/2022 8:37:50 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: NorseViking
If Gurkin says so then it is probably true.... Much appreciated.

But not until Alex Jines weighted in.... You just had to throw that in, didn't you? ;)

6 posted on 05/16/2022 8:42:11 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: BobL
They'll get a bit more truthful AFTER the $40B has passed Congress.

Maybe, until then they should really consider renaming themselves The Daily Propaganda.

Ukrainian tanks are now on the outskirts of Moscow.

7 posted on 05/16/2022 8:45:25 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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I’m sure that is why Austin is calling Shoigu asking for a ceasefire since the winning side always calls the losing side to request a ceasefire. The reality is that 90% of the stuff coming out about the war is outright B.S. and you probably can’t trust the other 10%.


8 posted on 05/16/2022 8:46:03 PM PDT by tballard56
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To: Widget Jr

More DailyMail globalist horse$hit.


9 posted on 05/16/2022 8:47:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Widget Jr

If Igor wasn’t such a jerk in 2014 then Mariupol and the rest of the Southeast could be parts of DNR back then without a lot bloodshed.


10 posted on 05/16/2022 8:54:04 PM PDT by NorseViking
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#8. Sigh...🙄

First, Austin called Shoigu for a cease fire because he is the U.S. Secretary of Defense. Calling to request a cease fire and negotiations is expected of him for diplomatic reasons.

Second, that claim that requesting a cease fire is evidence Ukraine is losing started with Gonzalo Lira. I go over his online history here. A failed pick up artist and dating coach is not my first choice for informed commentary on international diplomacy.

Third, Igor Girkin has been Moscow's top man and separatist leader in Eastern Ukraine for over eight years. He is not some Daily Mail headline writer. For someone in his position, with his record, to publicly post that Russia's Donetsk operations are in trouble has real meaning.

11 posted on 05/16/2022 9:11:57 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: fieldmarshaldj

#9. Which is why I posted what Igor Girkin wrote directly from his own Telegram Channel and provide a translation.


12 posted on 05/16/2022 9:15:24 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Reporting accusations from Ukraine (which this article has) or from Russia is gossip at best or propaganda at worst.

Don’t feed the MSM trolls as they are libtards or use libtard tactics.

Don’t become a liberal.


13 posted on 05/16/2022 9:16:31 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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#10. Girkin is Moscow's top man to stir things up and create excuses for Russia to have annexed Crimea and invade Ukraine. Being a jerk and bloodshed are tools of his trade in Russian service.
14 posted on 05/16/2022 9:18:13 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Its All Over Except ...

#13. Please read my comments #1 and #12.


15 posted on 05/16/2022 9:22:53 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

There is no reliable information proving that Girkin was acting on behalf of Russia. The fact that he is a retired Russian officer proves nothing. I generally think that Putin wasn’t particularly fond of the idea of “Russian world” nine years ago, thinking it is a right-wing conspiracy threatening his power.
The future development and current criticism from Girkin proves that it is likely the case and Girkin was likely a maverick who was in a sense right but not persistent enough to have his way to gain influence and full government support in Russia.


16 posted on 05/16/2022 9:27:25 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: sauropod

And in other news, the Azov Brigade has surrendered in Mariupol and Russia has now consolidated its land bridge to the Crimean Peninsula and Russia and now controls the Sea of Azov.


17 posted on 05/16/2022 9:32:00 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Widget Jr
Actually the Donbass region is getting close to collapsing in on the Ukrainians. There is a video out today about the situation from a Ukrainian soldier. Then another report that lends credence to the video from a guy who has a very accurate track record on the war so far. It looks bad for the gullible propaganda believers.

Donbass War Report - Ukrainians are encircled.

18 posted on 05/16/2022 9:35:24 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: WMarshal

#17. Then post it on its own thread.


19 posted on 05/16/2022 9:45:49 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: WMarshal

I’ve observed.


20 posted on 05/16/2022 10:05:05 PM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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