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Russian ambassador to US hints at split in the Kremlin over Ukraine war: Hardline diplomat implies some Moscow officials want to pull back invading troops and 'repent'
MAILONLINE ^ | 15 May 2022 | WILL STEWART and CHRIS JEWERS

Posted on 05/15/2022 8:39:40 AM PDT by dennisw

Anatoly Antonov said America is secretly giving Putin terms of negotiation He implied some inside the Kremlin are ready to give up the fight in Ukraine

The senior diplomat stressed he was not among those willing to capitulate His comments come as Russia fails to make significant progress in Ukraine

The Russian ambassador to the US has sensationally hinted at a split in the Kremlin hierarchy over Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

Speaking on Russian state TV, envoy Anatoly Antonov said America is secretly giving the Kremlin the terms of negotiations to halt the brutal fighting.

This comes amid a clear failure by the Russian army to make significant new progress in its push to invade areas of eastern Ukraine, after Moscow's forces changed tactics to focus on the region following earlier failings around Kyiv.

Antonov, 67, implied that some inside the Kremlin's power structures are ready to give up the fight, move back invading troops and even 'repent' - while stressing he was not among those willing to capitulate.

The senior diplomat - seen as a hardliner - said: 'The Americans are pushing us into negotiations, but with certain conditions.

'I would specify three of them,' he said. 'First, to stop military action as part of the special military operation. Second, to move our troops back to where they were before 24 February.' The third, he said, is 'to repent for everything we have done'.

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1 posted on 05/15/2022 8:39:40 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

REST OF THE STORY>>>>>>>>>>>

Antonov told Russian State TV anchor Vladimir Solovyov: ‘Naturally we are saying firm and clear, and we are unambiguously sure of this - at least the Russian diplomats that work here there will be no such capitulation. Never!

‘We are firmly convinced - and it would have been harder to work without this certainty - that all tasks set by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief will be fully completed. We will never surrender, and never go back.’

By saying ‘at least the Russian diplomats that work here’ he appeared to hint that others were less certain of his ‘no capitulation’ message.

The veteran ambassador failed to mention Putin by name, instead referring to him as the ‘Supreme Commander-in-Chief’.

In doing so, he makes clear that the military strategy - seen as flawed even in Russian security and military ranks - is coming from the very top of the Kremlin.

In other statements, Antonov has echoed other figures in the Russian elite that the east-west confrontation, with the West arming Ukraine, could trigger nuclear war.

He told Russian television: ‘The situation today is extremely, extremely dangerous.

‘The U.S. is being drawn deeper and deeper into conflict with the most unpredictable consequences for relations between the two nuclear powers.’

The Russian president placed Moscow’s nuclear forces on high alert shortly after his invasion of Ukraine began February 24, raising fears he could press the button as the war in Ukraine continues to go against him.

And amid increasing Western support to Ukraine, Putin has made thinly veiled threats hinting at a willingness to deploy Russia’s tactical nuclear weapons, which Russian military doctrine holds can be used to force an adversary to retreat.


2 posted on 05/15/2022 8:41:01 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Japan repented but it took 2 big bombs.


3 posted on 05/15/2022 8:41:55 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Japan repented but it took 2 big bombs.”

When cancer ridden Putin comes off the operating table, with the brain of a vegetable. Then peace and repentance can be made. Putin is such vile scum, that he wants all of the Northern Black Sea ports. To make Ukraine landlocked, so that it cannot sell its wheat and grain internationally. At the moment, the Russians are preventing/blockading Ukrainian grain from the 2021 harvest, to be shipped out to world markets.


4 posted on 05/15/2022 8:52:11 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Offering them the pre February 24 boundaries, when they are in the process of losing those areas, shows Biden’s weakness once again.

If one considers the horrible and pointless thing that Russia has done here then we need to realize that Putin and his spokespeople are talking and acting like madmen.


5 posted on 05/15/2022 9:04:03 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: dennisw

Just have to wait to see. Hopefully the next Russian leader is not a mad dog killer like Putin.


6 posted on 05/15/2022 9:08:59 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: dennisw

Coming tomorrow in the Daily Mail...Insiders say Vladimir Putin has full-blown AIDS and only has months to live. On Tuesday, Vladimir Putin has been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis and will be forced to resign with two months...On Wednesday, the inside story on Putin’s brain tumor...On Thursday, the story of how Putin contradicted hepatitis C from Russian hooker. And, on Friday, a Kremlin insider tells the Daily Mail that Putin has a serious heart condition and only has months to live.


7 posted on 05/15/2022 9:12:09 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Williams

Well said. I agree.


8 posted on 05/15/2022 9:13:26 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Williams

Well said. I agree.


9 posted on 05/15/2022 9:17:08 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: dennisw
At the moment, the Russians are preventing/blockading Ukrainian grain from the 2021 harvest, to be shipped out to world markets.

Can you imagine if they controlled all that grain? Not just the transport, but the possession of it.

This is a fight somewhat like the first Gulf War, where there was a real possibility that, without intervention, Iraq would gain control of all of the Mideast petroleum and use it to hold the West hostage.

10 posted on 05/15/2022 9:27:09 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Kazan

You certainly can’t trust the Daily Mail ... unless Russia is winning.


11 posted on 05/15/2022 9:28:27 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: dennisw

I feel for the parents whose sons have been sacrificed for this BS.


12 posted on 05/15/2022 9:39:27 AM PDT by blam
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Not only grain…..

If the Russians capture Odesa they will have possession of two of the world’s biggest production plants for Industrial NEON. They and China will essentially control the market for this gas. Industrial NEON is difficult to refine and is essential for laser etching microchips. The world’s largest microchip manufacturers are down to about a 30 day supply of this gas and once that runs out, microchip manufacturing will grind to a halt except in China and Russia. Everything from a phone to a rocket relies on microchips. If Russian and China control the market, the west will be screwed.


13 posted on 05/15/2022 9:52:56 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: All

If this happens then Fauci will no longer the world’s second coming.

Zelensky will have actual cultural power.


14 posted on 05/15/2022 10:06:21 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: XRdsRev

We may not be in a position to actually fight in Ukraine, but I think supplying a successful resistance to Russian aggression is well worth while.


15 posted on 05/15/2022 10:22:56 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

You have a point. Under MAD the Soviets knew better. I would gamble that their not willing to trade queens on the chess board.


16 posted on 05/15/2022 10:37:54 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Example: The Yom Kipper War. They threatened, we went on alert and they backed down. We supplied Israel the whole time. Of course Egypt wasn’t worth it to them.

Face it. The Russians are that way. They bully and only understand strength. I’d say it’s moral support on our part-the military equipment that is. We’re going to have to offer a bounty for the return of those smart weapons when this is over.


17 posted on 05/15/2022 10:43:56 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: dennisw

Daily Mail propaganda is always good for a laugh!

ROFL - thats funny.
just because msm denies all russian breakthru’s and advances don’t mean it’s not happening daily but some can put head in sand and be ignorant.(unfortunately those are the trolls who have been posting a lot of this daily mail BS)
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Yesterday - - -
“One of the bloodiest battlefields in Eastern Ukraine remains the Izyum area in the Kharkiv region. The Russian-led forces have established an important stronghold in the town and continue to expand their control zone in two main directions: to the south-east towards the cities of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk as well as to the south-west towards the town of Barvenkovo, which was turned into the main stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the region. In turn, Ukrainian forces continue their attempts to counter-attack the Russian grouping to the west of Izyum.

So far, the Russian-led forces managed to take control over the village of Dolgenkoe in the south-eastern direction.

On May 14th, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported an offensive of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the direction of Bogorodichnoye and Krasnopolye. The villages are located about 6 and 12 kilometers south of Dolgenkoe. So far, no confirmation of the Russian control over the villages was reported. On May 15th, a counterattack of the Ukrainian units was repelled near Dolgenkoe.

The Russian control over the villages of Krasnopolye, Dolyna and Bogorodichnoe will cut the road leading to the west to the town of Svyatogorsk where Ukrainian units remain. Amid the Russian advance, the AFU grouping in the town risks being surrounded in the coming days.

To the south-west of Izyum, the clashes reached the Barvenkovo area, the large stronghold of Ukrainian forces. On May 15, clashes were reported on the south-eastern outskirts of the town in the village of Gusarovka. The Russian offensive is carried out from the village of Kurulki. So far, the clashes continue in the villages on the outskirts, while Barvenkovo remains under the AFU control. The advance of the Russian-led forces to Barvenkovo from the south-eastern directions cuts one of the roads heading from Barvenkovo to Slavyansk.

In their turn, Ukrainian forces continue their attempts to cross the Seversky Donets River near the village of Protopovka to the west of Izyum and counterattack the flank of Russian forces advancing towards Slavyansk. The first attempts of counterattacks by the AFU units in the region were reported more than a week ago. So far, they have not led to any success.

The Russian positions were strengthened after the Russian troops took control over the village of Velikaya Kamishevaha located nearby, from where they could attack Ukrainian units on the left bank of the Seversky Donets River.

One of the Ukrainian attempts to cross the river was thwarted on May 14th, when the ponton crossing was destroyed by the Russian artillery. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation published footage of the destruction of the pontoon crossing of the AFU.

The front lines in the area of Izyum remain one of the main battlefields of the war in Ukraine. The recent successes of the AFU near the city of Kharkiv allow to transfer more forces from the region to support the counter offensive near Izyum. However, the AFU are yet to slow down the advance of the Russian-led forces aimed at surrounding of the cities of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.”
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an update posted today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv8HeIpNsGI


18 posted on 05/15/2022 12:16:06 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Iraq would gain control of all of the Mideast petroleum and use it to hold the West hostage

Hostage to what?

What is the evidence that Iraq had geopolitical objectives involving "the West"?

19 posted on 05/15/2022 3:04:06 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Love's redeeming work is done)
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To: Jim Noble
Hostage to what?

Extortionate prices, for one. This was at a time when most industrial nations were heavily dependent on mideast oil.

20 posted on 05/15/2022 3:50:37 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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