Ossetian is an Iranian language and the Ossetians are the remnants of the ancient Alan's, a branch of the Scythians who were an Iranian people who roamed the lands from the takla makan desert to the pannonian basin in Hungary
Posted on 05/15/2022 6:31:08 AM PDT by Cronos
A referendum on joining the Russian Federation will be held in the breakaway Georgian South Ossetia region. The office of the head of the region, Anatoly Bibilov, said a similar decree was signed on Friday. The Supreme Court in the capital, Tskhinvali, agreed and decided to hold the referendum on July 17, according to Russia’s state agency TASS.
By arranging the referendum, Bibilo explained, he was responding to the “historical aspirations” of the people of South Ossetia. “We are coming home,” the president of South Ossetia later wrote in the Telegram messenger service, with the goal of possible joining the Russian Federation. Now it’s time to unite us once and for all. The merger of South Ossetia and Russia is “the beginning of a great new history”.
However, Bibilow is about to be replaced as president. Russia has already expressed its hope that his designated successor, Alan Gaglov, will ensure the “continuity” of relations with Moscow.
Bibilow had already spoken about the planned referendum on Russian television at the end of March. The Georgian government had condemned the project as “unacceptable”.
Military conflict of 2008 After a brief military conflict with Georgia in August 2008, Russia officially recognized the independence of the pro-Russian breakaway region and neighboring Abkhazia. Since then, Russian troops are permanently stationed there.
Bibilov’s announcement came against the backdrop of the Russian military operation in Ukraine. Russia began this on February 24 after recognizing the independence of the local pro-Russian “people’s republics” of Donetsk and Luhansk.
In March, Bibilov said he had sent soldiers from South Ossetia to Ukraine “to help protect Russia.” Pro-Russian leaders in Luhansk and Donetsk, such as the president of South Ossetia, announced their intention to join the Russian Federation.
Ossetian is an Iranian language and the Ossetians are the remnants of the ancient Alan's, a branch of the Scythians who were an Iranian people who roamed the lands from the takla makan desert to the pannonian basin in Hungary
Very interesting. Thanks.
Good to see borders getting straightened out to match ethnic and historical divisions. Best of luck to you guys too.
Paging Hunter Biden, call from the big guy on line 3.
From the language map, I recognize the names Sogdian and Bactrian, from the history of Alexander the Great and his campaigns in the area. He married a local princess, the daughter of the local warlord (in addition to the daughter of Darius.)
From the language map, I recognize the names Sogdian and Bactrian, from the history of Alexander the Great and his campaigns in the area. He married a local princess, the daughter of the local warlord (in addition to the daughter of Darius.)
The headline does not match the article (but is the headline used). I suspect something got lost in translation. They are sending the issue to a vote on July 17, 2022.
I wonder if this will be a fair and free vote or is preordained. The article also notes, “However, [Anatoly] Bibilow is about to be replaced as president. Russia has already expressed its hope that his designated successor, Alan Gaglov, will ensure the “continuity” of relations with Moscow.”
I just noticed that the article was written by
Sidney Leonard, “Food practitioner. Bacon guru. Infuriatingly humble zombie enthusiast. Total student.”
The wiki article on South Ossetia has this funny notation on the Russian tactics.
Encroachment
The Russian troops who patrol the borders of South Ossetia have reportedly been expanding the boundaries of the region through “encroaching occupation”, meaning they surreptitiously advance several feet at a time into Georgian-held territory.
Iranian people?
All this area has been conquered by the Russians.
They all deserve independence!
You don't need to count the votes to know the results. See also the quick Fox News report of Biden winning in Arizona in 2020.
Wiki also notes that South Ossetia is 1500 square miles which is a little bigger than Rhode Island. The population has gone from 98,000 in 1989 to 53,000 in 2015.
Virtually the only significant economic asset that South Ossetia possesses is control of the Roki Tunnel that is used to link Russia and Georgia, from which the South Ossetian government reportedly obtained a large part of its budget by levying customs duties on freight traffic before the war.
Since the 2008 war South Ossetia and its economy is critically dependent on Russian economic assistance, and a year after the war former President Edurard Kokoity was grateful for the Russian aid for reconstruction work. According to reports Russian donations made up nearly 99% of the budget of South Ossetia by 2010. By 2021 this has been reduced to 83%.
Yes. There are many iranian people who aren’t in the borders of modern Iran.
You can think of these as somewhat like northern Indian, muktiplecnin mutually intelligible languages etc.
In iran you have Persians, luristsni, mazdani, bauchi, azaria etc peoples and outside iran you have tsjiks, balychis and ossetians who are iranian people.
The ossetians are Iranian but are Orthodox Christians and have been Christian since about the 4th century
Yes. Bactria is somewhat where Uzbekistan is and bacteria bactrian language is dead.
Sogdian still exists in north eastern Afghanistan
I think the ossetians have only a choice to be part of Russia or part of Sakartvelo.
My opinion is most would want yo join with their ethnic and linguistic brethren in north Ossetia, which is a federal subject ie republic of russia
Yep. This happened in Europe in the early 20th century. It was brutal and in the worst cases there was mass ethnic cleansing so that the populations would match the borders.
I think it far better to move the borders to match where the people live rather than to engage in ethnic cleansing because somebody has arbitrarily drawn a line on a map that does not conform to the wishes of the locals.
thanks for the map
it’s hard to know the players without a scorecard.
especially when one gets near eastern-europe or stanland
I am generally knowledgeable about history and modern geography. This area, though? Wow!
Thanks for the map and comment Cronos. Ain’t tribalism great?
Very “kairos!”
Hitler ussed plebiscites as excuses for aggressive annexations, too.
More evidence Putin is the. ational Socialist, eh?
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