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‘They were furious’: the Russian soldiers refusing to fight in Ukraine
Guardian UK ^ | 5/12/2022 | Pjotr Sauer

Posted on 05/13/2022 7:09:08 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Troops are saying no to officers, knowing that punishment is light while Russia is not technically at war.

When the soldiers of an elite Russian army brigade were told in early April to prepare for a second deployment to Ukraine, fear broke out among the ranks.

The unit, stationed in Russia’s far east during peacetime, first entered Ukraine from Belarus when the war started at the end of February and saw bitter combat with Ukrainian forces.

“It soon became clear that not everyone was onboard with it. Many of us simply did not want to go back,” said Dmitri, a member of the unit who asked not to be identified with his real name. “I want to return to my family – and not in a casket.”

Along with eight others, Dmitri told his commanders that he refused to rejoin the invasion. “They were furious. But they eventually calmed down because there wasn’t much they could do,” he said.

He was soon transferred to Belgorod, a Russian city close to the border with Ukraine, where he has been stationed since. “I have served for five years in the army. My contract ends in June. I will serve my remaining time and then I am out of here,” he said. “I have nothing to be ashamed of. We aren’t officially in a state of war, so they could not force me to go.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: peterhitchens; pjotrsauer; putin; russia; straightuppropaganda; ukraine
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To: kiryandil

VERY interesting find. It does seem as though marcusmaximus is an agenda-driven assignment-poster.


61 posted on 05/13/2022 8:03:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (My preferred pronouns are “monkey wrench” and “potato bin”.)
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To: Cathi
He adds that “the Das Reich nazi division that committed the Oradour-sur-Glane massacre [a famous massacre in France committed by the nazis during WW2], they were all Ukrainians, 95% of them were Ukrainians.”

What the hell?

I'm going to have to check this out.

62 posted on 05/13/2022 8:19:37 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Lazamataz
Beginning of December 2020 through April 2021.

Very "dedicated" article poster...

63 posted on 05/13/2022 8:31:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil; Travis McGee
Regards: marcusmaximum: Beginning of December 2020 through April 2021. Very "dedicated" article poster...

See if you cannot find any additional examples of propaganda blanket-posting by this individual, on topics other than the Ukraine or Fox Ratings. If it can adequately be shown to Jim or the moderators that this is an assignment-poster, they will bounce him.

I hate propagandists.

64 posted on 05/13/2022 8:35:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz (My preferred pronouns are “monkey wrench” and “potato bin”.)
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To: kiryandil

Fox News was in on The Steal and lost half their viewers as a result. They colluded to help put Biden in office and now we’re all paying the price.


65 posted on 05/13/2022 9:41:32 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Your uncritical posting of Liz Truss’s Brit Ukraine agitprop may be driving up my utility bills.


66 posted on 05/13/2022 9:51:50 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Biden is driving up your utility bills, not me.


67 posted on 05/13/2022 9:55:20 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Lazamataz

There is a whole shit pot full of them on here. All you have to do is read their post. If Jim got rid of them, Free Republic would be reduced 90%.


68 posted on 05/13/2022 10:00:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: marcusmaximus

Look up “uncritical”, “Liz Truss”, “Peter Hitchens” & “censorship”.


69 posted on 05/13/2022 10:04:14 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Lazamataz
Well, I looked them over, and nothing sticks out.

I know he/she likes media implosion articles - but so do I.  ROFL face

70 posted on 05/13/2022 10:06:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: marcusmaximus

Oh, look up the phrase “may be”, also. It’s not equivalent to “is”.


71 posted on 05/13/2022 10:07:56 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Thanks for the research!

I intend to write two editorials tomorrow. One is based on an accidental turn-of-a-phrase that I, not so humbly, consider brilliant:

The Fact CHEKA.

The second editorial will explore the revelation that this is Obama’s third term, and how he pretty much admitted it.


72 posted on 05/13/2022 10:08:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (My preferred pronouns are “monkey wrench” and “potato bin”.)
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To: Lazamataz

The Fact CHEKA


73 posted on 05/13/2022 10:30:26 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Lazamataz

And speaking of the Fact CHEKA, I wonder how long before some of the vote-fraud-denyin’ Usual FR Suspects dance out with the denials from their Chekist masters in the Brandon Media, along with the accompanying HAR-HAR-HARS and loud guffaws...


74 posted on 05/13/2022 10:36:17 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Vermont Lt
This is an American site....do they teach rape in Russia’s basic training? Or is it something you learn with your sisters?

Hush Neocon, there will be no more Afghanistans under my watch. Got it?

75 posted on 05/14/2022 4:14:24 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: JonPreston

I pay attention to other people’s posts. You should as well. You make yourself look ignorant.

Calling me a Neocon is hilarious. There hasn’t been a war since....well, since I’ve been alive that I’ve supported.

But, I know in Russia its difficult to understand the nuances of American politics. When you are ignorant and brought up to only understand hammers...everything looks like a nail.

I wonder, just how are you tied to the Motherland? Your parents still there? I doubt that. In the woods there, the average lifespan is about 45 years old. Kind of like back in Roman days.


76 posted on 05/14/2022 8:43:43 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Hush 🤫 Neocon swine 🐷


77 posted on 05/14/2022 8:55:48 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: DesertRhino

Every person in our military asked to be there.


78 posted on 05/14/2022 6:41:36 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: JonPreston

Regardless of your position, you are one rude prick.

Free Republic used to be a nice place.


79 posted on 05/14/2022 6:59:32 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: Nik Naym
you are one rude prick

How dare you!

80 posted on 05/14/2022 7:02:59 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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