Other than "fighting" for their pet causes (two of which you mentioned), most liberals and libertarians are accurately described as cowards not up for the fight to defend and preserve Liberty.
Yeah. I do try not to bash Libertarians because I see them as natural allies of Conservatives. But, while I understand that Libertarians are typically “socially Liberal” and “fiscally Conservative” it does seem me that they come across as imply “socially Liberal” full stop.
I don’t see Libertarians participating in any of the struggles that I care about. And these days it seems like almost everything is legalized so I have no idea what Libertarians are actually willing to fight for.