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To: Jan_Sobieski; UMCRevMom@aol.com
And you say Watch Ukraine on Fire by Oliver Stone -- I did watch it in 2018/19 and didn't think much of it - it was as bad as a Michael Fatty "documentary" -- just one-sided interviews

He interviews Putin, Yanukovich, and the head of police who oversaw police brutality attacking peaceful student protesters. There are no interviews with any civilians who were actually at these protests and all protesters are lumped into "Neo-Nazi supporters and some random civilians who fell prey to their misleading propaganda." - but nothing from the other side

Then he portrays false stories -

  1. That Ukraine is a "invented nation" - historically this is demonstrably false, forgetting about Chmielinski, about Kyivan Rus etc.

  2. That Ukraine "split from Russia thanks to historical coincidences. " -- this is again demonstrably false. Kyiv, Muscowy, Novgorod were different daughters of Kyivan Rus. the Muscowites are partially "descended" from Kyivan Rus but more administratively and culturally from the Mongol Khaganate

  3. “The history of Ukraine was made by third parties” as Stone alleges - this forgets baotu Ivan Mazepa etc. and completely forgets about the Russification of the 1800s

  4. He then “trying to preserve the gains of the revolution” (a phrase from Soviet textbooks) was forced to give Ukraine to the Germans, who turned it into their protectorate. This is an outright lie: at the moment when Lenin’s envoys were signing the peace treaty at Brest-Litovsk, it had already been signed by a delegation of the Ukrainian People’s Republic, newly-formed in Kiev,

  5. Finally - how can you believe a film that supposedly talks of the history of Ukraine in the first decade of its independence, and the main and only speaker appearing as an expert on Ukraine in the 1990s is... Vladimir Putin. On behalf of ordinary Ukrainians Putin complains at length about the robbery of privatisation, the appropriation of state property and extortion of the ordinary people – in other words, about everything that he himself, his friends and his benefactors did in Russia in the 1990s.

The documentary doesn't even attempt to be balanced. Getting Putin to talk about Ukraine post 1991 and the problems there is like asking the Ayatollah to talk about the USA in the 1990s.

70 posted on 05/12/2022 6:24:37 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Thanks Cronos!
You are totally spot-on!


71 posted on 05/12/2022 6:38:55 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, some )
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