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What a Russia war win would look like
Asia Times ^ | ANDREW SALMON

Posted on 05/07/2022 6:01:19 AM PDT by FarCenter

War plunges its participants into a welter of death and destruction, hardship and cruelty, tragedy and irony. The Ukraine war’s agonies have been widely documented but its overlooked ironies are particularly striking.

The post-1945 US has proven largely unsuccessful as a warrior nation. Russia and its predecessor state, the USSR, have been far more successful – with one standout exception.

One observer thinks Russian President Vladimir Putin has launched his country on potentially its most disastrous military venture since that exception – the USSR’s war in Afghanistan.

The Kremlin’s ongoing “special military operation” grants Washington not only a platform of moral superiority but the opportunity to fight a proxy war that could feasibly bleed Russia white in Ukraine the same way it did the USSR in Afghanistan.

Multiple regime change campaigns undertaken by US-led Western alliances have ended in disasters – ones that Putin has excoriated, most notably the West’s own Afghan defeat.

Yet Putin, previously an astute and victorious war maker, now appears to have made that very same error with his bid to overthrow Kiev’s Volodymyr Zelensky government.

But even as Russia’s body count climbs, the observer warns that it would be dangerous for the West to hope, or push for, regime change in Moscow.

That observer is Italian Gastone Breccia, a professor of military history at the University of Pavia who has published widely on topics ranging from the Roman art of war to the Korean conflict. He has also conducted live research in war zones including Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

His upcoming work, scheduled to be published next month with co-author Andrea Frediani, is Le Guerra Della Russia (The Wars of Russia).

In an exclusive interview, Breccia discusses Russia’s war of choice in Ukraine, the West’s response, possible outcomes and an overlooked worst-case scenario for Europe.

(Excerpt) Read more at asiatimes.com ...


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1 posted on 05/07/2022 6:01:19 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Once the realities of the ground truth in Ukraine start to hit the stock market will tank even further and commodities prices will go even higher. You don’t send 10s of billions of dollars of military aid to a country that’s winning and om the verge of victory, and you don’t do it repeatedly and at panic levels to a country that’s winning. Russia has suffered more than it expected though. But Ukraine is being essentially picked apart.


2 posted on 05/07/2022 6:07:57 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: FarCenter
It will look exactly like this
3 posted on 05/07/2022 6:14:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: FarCenter

This whole war thing in Ukraine doesn’t make sense unless you realize who it benefits. Defense contractors, globalists, governments such as ours that use it for scapegoating the problems they created. And then Rasputin is playing far ahead with disrupting markets and food shortages. It’s an evil mess.


4 posted on 05/07/2022 6:17:27 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: HighSierra5

And 10% for the big guy.


5 posted on 05/07/2022 6:29:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FarCenter
The post-1945 US has proven largely unsuccessful as a warrior nation.

I find this statement to be singularly difficult and, depending upon the definition of 'warrior nation', false! In 1945, the United States, with the two-front war successful and those enemies surrendered, demobilized its warriors as rapidly as possible! From a 1945 size of 12.2 million (all branches) in 1947 it was down to 1.57 million, a drop of 86%. This was done with the knowledge that the US had both the atom bomb and the bombers to deliver it!

The Soviet Union / Russia also reduced after WW2 but maintained a land force of almost 3 million and mostly concentrated towards Europe. Stalin & company used their occupation forces in Europe to draw the Iron Curtain over middle Europe to create the Warsaw Pact!

SO what is a Warrior Nation? If it is for conquest, then that description stands! Post-1945 US got some of the Japanese possessions that they got from WW1 German defeat. Compared to Russia, the largest geographical nation on the planet? They got far more in the FINLAND War alone!

If a Warrior Nation includes defense and restraint of an aggressive enemy, I'd say from the Berlin Crisis of 1948 through to the fall of the Soviet system in Russia, the US did rather well!

6 posted on 05/07/2022 6:44:56 AM PDT by SES1066 (More & more it looks like Brandon's best decision was Kamala! UGH!)
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To: SES1066
We've won far more battles than we've lost....especially when we've been allowed to fight to our full capability.

In the most recent engagements with Soviet/Russian equipment our equipment and training has proved superior.

If we've had any reverses it's only because of the lack of political will from our "betters" in DC.

7 posted on 05/07/2022 7:28:15 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: HighSierra5

Bidens, Pelosis, Romneys, etc. covering their tracks.


8 posted on 05/07/2022 7:40:55 AM PDT by Fireone (When they pry them from my cold, dead, unvaccinated hands.)
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To: FarCenter

At this moment, Russia is able to maintain a land bridge to Crimea. That might be all what they are capable of doing. Unless they decide to fully mobilize. But this would mean Putin has to declare war on Ukraine rather than a “special military operation” at this moment.


9 posted on 05/07/2022 7:44:58 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: FarCenter

the globalists are pissed that they lost their money laundering and human trafficking centers and that secret US biolabs have been discovered.


10 posted on 05/07/2022 9:15:27 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: FarCenter
“What a Russia war win would look like”

Murder, plunder, rape, Somali-style corruption and unlimited pathology. Basically, a bunch of drunk imbeciles sitting on a pile of rubbish.

11 posted on 05/07/2022 9:27:24 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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