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Poland Pushing the World toward World War III
Armstrong Economics ^ | 29 Apr 22 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 04/29/2022 11:32:54 AM PDT by delta7

QUESTION: I don’t get it, Poland won’t pay for gas in rubles, when I buy something from the US I have to pay in US dollars not Canadian, so what am I missing? CM ANSWER: Politics! Minister of Climate and Environment, Anna Moskwa clearly has zero comprehension of geopolitics. She has come out and said that the European Union should penalize countries that use roubles to pay for Russian gas. In response to Moscow’s decision to cut off supplies to Poland and Bulgaria over their refusal to do so. Moskwa has come out and said: “Poland holds necessary gas reserves and sources of supply which protect our security because for years we have been becoming effectively independent of Russia. Our storage facilities are full at 76%. Polish households will not run short of gas.” This is what she said during a press conference held on April 26th, 2022 at the Ministry of Climate and Environment. The absurdity of her statements is beyond belief. To think that refusing to buy Russian energy will bring Putin to his knees pleading for mercy is just absurd. She makes no criticism of Ukraine and its notorious corruption of the fact that it is being reported that Zelensky has stashed over $800 million in offshore accounts while demanding $7 billion per month in aid. Even the IMF cut off Ukraine because it is so corrupt. You cannot do business in Ukraine – period! There is NOTHING that Zelensky says which can be verified independently and he will say whatever to keep the money pouring in. Ukrainian corruption has been a systemic problem that the IMF has been complaining about since 2016. I am warning people that the corruption in Ukraine is off the charts. Reliable sources have warned that you have to pay bribes and if you pay the wrong people, you and your family are still beaten because there is a wholesale level of corruption by many groups. Ukraine has long been a place you do not do business for you really have to count your fingers just shaking hands. Even the Ukraine press warns that reforms are always blocked. Even Ukraine’s former governor Valeria Gontareva of its central bank has come out and told the International Monetary Fund must act decisively to protect the independence of Ukraine’s central bank against Zelensky. Nevertheless, at the same time, Poland is constructing a wall to keep the Ukrainians out for what they are not telling people is the truth. Meanwhile, sources in Poland are reporting to me that the Ukrainian refugees are complaining they are not being given more money. Some claim they got more in Ukraine and are returning. As always, nothing appears to be as the headlines present it. The statements of Anna Moskwa are in and of themselves just absurd. She has adopted the narrative of the Neocons who want war and the net result of her statements is supporting the division of the world economy pushing us ever closer to World War III which may begin in 2023. Poland’s reserves will NOT last forever.


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The EU is broke, and there is good reason Ukraine has never been admitted to either the EU or NATO since their birth in 1991. Corruption, mainly. Ukraine has long been known in the banking industry to be the MOST corrupted nation on earth, money laundering capital of the world, graft, bribes, even the IMF acknowledges that….10 percent to Joe is just the tip of the iceberg.
1 posted on 04/29/2022 11:32:54 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Look at their history. Always dominated by someone. Can you blame them? The Krauts are no longer a threat. The Russians are worse. Ask Ukraine.


2 posted on 04/29/2022 11:34:58 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: delta7

“Meanwhile, sources in Poland are reporting to me that the Ukrainian refugees are complaining they are not being given more money. Some claim they got more in Ukraine and are returning.”

Don’t know if it’s true, but it’s still pretty funny. I guess these Ukes aren’t that afraid of Pooty and his Army.


3 posted on 04/29/2022 11:35:55 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: DIRTYSECRET

It’s like asking the Chicom’s to forget the rape of Nanking.


4 posted on 04/29/2022 11:36:01 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: delta7

“There is NOTHING that Zelensky says which can be verified independently”

Can you independently verify that?


5 posted on 04/29/2022 11:38:31 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Who thought a little backwater country in the Balkans would be the tinderbox for World War I ?

6 posted on 04/29/2022 11:39:18 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: delta7
By the way, paragraphs are our friends.

7 posted on 04/29/2022 11:39:44 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: delta7

Darn Poles, if only they gave up Danzig there would have been no WWII. /s


8 posted on 04/29/2022 11:40:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: delta7

Seems to me the US is doing the primary pushing.


9 posted on 04/29/2022 11:40:52 AM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: delta7
Poland now gets its Russian gas from Germany and Germany pays for the gas in rubles.

Poland increases reverse gas supplies from Germany

10 posted on 04/29/2022 11:41:46 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Look at their history. Always dominated by someone. Can you blame them? The Krauts are no longer a threat. The Russians are worse. Ask Ukraine.”

And that’s just the 20th century bleed over into the 21st century. Go back 500+ years.. That’s when the acrimony really started happening in this region.


11 posted on 04/29/2022 11:43:37 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, bust that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: delta7

I’m going to quote myself here since the quote applies to you:

“the more hysterical you get about ‘Mah Russia is WINNING!!’ the more you sound like Hitler in the bunker delusionally ordering non-existent armies to defend Berlin.

Winners don’t need to tell anyone when they’re winning because the facts speak for themselves.”

You punks aren’t winning. You sound desperate to make Ukraine sound like it’s losing in the futile hope that you can erode support for the Ukies as they keep slaughtering the Soviet invaders.


12 posted on 04/29/2022 11:45:05 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: delta7

I may be wrong, but don’t international contracts generally specify the currency of payment?


13 posted on 04/29/2022 11:45:15 AM PDT by throwthebumsout
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To: delta7

Martin Arthur Armstrong (born November 1, 1949) is an American self-taught[1] economic forecaster and convicted felon who spent 11 years in jail for cheating investors out of $700 million and hiding $15 million in assets from regulators.[1]


14 posted on 04/29/2022 11:46:30 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: delta7

Actually, I thought the money laundering capital was EU member Cyprus, where lots of Russians are dual nationals.


15 posted on 04/29/2022 11:49:45 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: delta7

Everyone knows Russia is at least twice as corrupt as Ukraine.

Ukraine has not been accepted to Nato to appease the Russians and recently because it does not have uncontested borders. Another reason Russia invaded Ukraine. Twice.

Shameful Poles! They are not bending over for the Russians to invade every East European country.


16 posted on 04/29/2022 11:51:55 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: mac_truck
German Energy Giant To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles
By Irina Slav - Apr 28, 2022, 10:00 AM CDT

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/German-Energy-Giant-To-Pay-For-Russian-Gas-In-Rubles.html

17 posted on 04/29/2022 11:55:46 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: throwthebumsout

I’m not going to say all, but yes, commodity contracts generally have a currency to purchase. In this case I believe it was Euros.

When the sanctions came down, Russia changed their end of the deal and asked for Rubles:

https://www.bruegel.org/2022/04/a-sanctions-counter-measure-gas-payments-to-russia-in-rubles/

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/explainer-paying-natural-gas-rubles-83735661

From the second link: “European governments and energy companies are rejecting the idea, saying gas import contracts specify the currency and that one side can’t change it overnight. They say they intend to keep paying in euros and dollars.”


18 posted on 04/29/2022 11:58:24 AM PDT by roostercashews (Having a gun doesn't make you safe, but knowing how to use one does.)
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To: delta7
QUESTION: I don’t get it, Poland won’t pay for gas in rubles, when I buy something from the US I have to pay in US dollars not Canadian, so what am I missing?

What you're missing is that Poland and Russia had a signed contract that Russia is now unilaterally changing.

19 posted on 04/29/2022 11:58:37 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: delta7
And here I thought that it was Russia who started the war. As for any corruption in Ukraine, that is for the Ukrainians to solve; it is none of Russia's business. And it is not as if Russia did not have its own problem of corruption. Here is a look at Putin's $700M yacht:


20 posted on 04/29/2022 11:59:41 AM PDT by Petrosius
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