Posted on 04/29/2022 3:44:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
I think you put far too much weight on a certification process that IS largely ceremonial. As others have posted here, the 2020 election disaster should have been fixed long before it got to Congress.
One of the worst American Thinker essays I have read to date.
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The author couldn’t even attach his or her name to it. “Flyoverpen?” Who is that? Lez Zelcheney?
Agree!!
Was about to post the same, regarding the fake name.
Even they know it’s a crock!
See Post #68. The guy ignored “rampant fraud” because it’s not his job to figure out what was fraudulent and what wasn’t.
This guy is all over the place... Wtf are you supposed to take away from this piece?? Christ I write better than this clown!!
They didn’t have to. If there was credible evidence of fraud it needed to be assessed. There is a mechanism to ask the states to reassess for just this type of situation.
I can’t get over the number of people that chose to nitpick about form while ignoring obvious fraud.
We are supposed to weigh & measure not say “not my job” “I can’t risk being second guessed”. Pence is a disgrace, an indictment of what is wrong with the GOP. The safety, security and prosperity of America be damned.
Ed can't carry the Tonight Show on his own. He can't save the day when Johnny is having a bad night and can't save the show if Johnny is messing up. Carson wouldn't expect Ed to save him or say that Ed betrayed him if he couldn't or wouldn't.
I'm not going to call Pence a hero, but I do think he gets a bum rap. The article makes that point rather well if you bother to read it.
It was and is not Trump’s job to fix this country. It is all of ours. He can be the leader, but leaders delegate and that means you and me. It starts with our voting power. And volunteering for poll watchers, etc. It is up to us to try to change things.
“think you put far too much weight on a certification process that IS largely ceremonial. As others have posted here, the 2020 election disaster should have been fixed long before it got to Congress.”
You’re still not getting my point. Yes, pence refusing to perform his role wouldn’t change a thing. BUT he would have shown support for Trump and the millions who know it was fraudulent. It was a sham process because the results sent were a sham. By taking part Pence legitimized it. He essentially said “I don’t agree but I’ll do my job.” Like a good boy. Like a nazi guard. Like a deep state tool.
Agreed. What is so galling to many of us is that the cheating was so glaringly obvious.
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Not only that, they openly and arrogantly wrote and talked and planned a whole year before the election online !
Then bragged about their fortification of the steal in widely read publication.
Lots of folks tried to stop their steal set up but Soros had control of some secretary of states, district attorneys , state and federal justices and state governors.
They basicly broke into the election infrastructure in broad daylight in a smash and grab protected by gangster guards on the street.
What exactly is that mechanism? And what confidence do you have that the states would do anything to “reassess” something they’ve already certified?
I keep seeing these references to “rampant fraud” all over FR, but even a year and a half after the election I have yet to see anything definitive that would have changed the outcome of the election in any way — and I mean even changing the results in a single state, let alone the multiple states that Trump would have needed to win.
Ummmmm... ((( Pin drop )))
Depends on whether Soros will let him
vivenne wrote: “It would not allow Pence alone to “pick” the President. Don’t be hyperbolic.:
If the VP can choose which votes count then he could pick the next president. A statement often attributed to Stalin: “The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
So how do you explain the stair chart where so many votes were tabulated in one moment that the totals jumped producing a step. You ignore the evidence of the mathematicians & statisticians? You ignore the evidence that the number of votes entered at that time were greater than the machines could handle?
There was more than enough evidence to suspect chicanery but because it suited Democrats and the RINO the obvious fraud was swept under the carpet and suppressed. That suppression and dishonesty continues to this day although anyone who takes the time to educate themselves is aware that blatant fraud was involved and likely has been for years.
The magnitude of President Trump’s popularity is that the cheaters needed to manufacture such large numbers of votes that they were finally exposed.
Why would it be wrong to recount or to audit the election? Elections should be transparent enough that audits are automatic. If that was the case any attempt to change the election by asking for an audit or recertification by a state would cause no change.
You are gaslighting. It’s not the power to choose. Asking the states for clarification is not choosing.
Don’t get me wrong. Elections have been stolen since the birth of our republic. (Remember Cook County and Duval County in 1960). For a hundred years Democrats used poll taxes and such to disenfranchise black voters in the South. What we need is extreme voting reform when we can get honest results in a timely manner. I’ve always liked pence. I thought he remained a stable force in a volatile administration. I just think he had no options in certifying the 2020 election. I don’t know if my views are still acceptable on FR. I want a sane, responsible, honest, conserevative governmlent that will heal America. I will be more than glad to vote for DeSantis, Cotton, Rubio, Carson,Trump, et. al in 2024. Our very existence as a free republic is at stake!
By taking part Pence legitimized it. He essentially said “I don’t agree but I’ll do my job.” Like a good boy. Like a nazi guard. Like a deep state tool.
So did Trump also legitimize the process by leaving office voluntarily on Inauguration Day? Or maybe he first legitimized the process by refusing to resign on January 7th — once the fraud was certified?
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