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Operation Z: The Death Throes of an Imperial Delusion
rusi.org ^ | 04/22/2022 | Dr Jack Watling and Nick Reynolds

Posted on 04/28/2022 12:48:09 PM PDT by pierrem15

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To: EarlyBird

One of the things about this war that kind of surprised me was the availability and quality of commercial satellite imagery. Having spent a couple of decades looking at military satellite imagery the shrinking gap in quality between military and commercial is an eye opener personally.


61 posted on 04/28/2022 8:26:14 PM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: pierrem15

That pdf is great. I read and re read it. Thank you


62 posted on 04/28/2022 9:49:10 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: pierrem15

In Moldova proper ie not Transdniestr, there is little to no support for Putin


63 posted on 04/28/2022 9:50:44 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: redgolum

Having resources is one thing, but the Russians don’t have the high tech pieces to successfully exploit them. And they have had a brain drain and neglected education over the past few decades.


64 posted on 04/28/2022 9:53:55 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: MercyFlush

I would rather go with the pessimistic view that they have more cannon fodder. This means the Ukrainians need to destroy more Russian battalions, ships, tanks and aircraft.

Even if Russia wins anything, it is a Pyrrhic victory


65 posted on 04/28/2022 9:56:32 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Dick Vomer

I rather think there would be a Russian civil war. There is no groomed successor, no one who could command respect across lines


66 posted on 04/28/2022 10:08:53 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: redgolum

India and Brazil are happy to exploit Russia’s predicament and buy resources at huge discounts. More than that, no.

They do more business with the west.

I don’t see Israel joining Putin’s game. And MSB is going to sit on the fence, he doesn’t want Russia to win but doesn’t care for the other side either.


67 posted on 04/28/2022 10:11:23 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: MHGinTN; sinsofsolarempirefan; Zhang Fei

Mhgintn “Russia will methodically turn UK into a syrianized morqass”

Boy, you say that with glee


68 posted on 04/28/2022 10:14:14 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Russian civil war? Between what factions? How are they going to arm themselves and who has the nukes?


69 posted on 04/29/2022 3:44:54 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: Dick Vomer

I lack the knowledge to speculate on Putin’s fate.

I learned he is about to turn 70 in a country where the longevity is 68.2 years. He lived his early life where there was no aspirin or Tylenol. His early years were medically tough by American or Euro standards. He is alive beyond his expiry date.

That has to weigh on his mind. Extrapolation.......Ukraine now or never.


70 posted on 04/29/2022 5:22:23 AM PDT by bert ( (KW?E. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Dick Vomer

Between the reds and those who want an open society.

They will use the left over weapons.

Nukes . It depends if they even work


71 posted on 04/29/2022 5:39:46 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Vermont Lt

A 10% loss of force effectiveness typically means “We can’t function anymore”. 20K is just about 10% of the Russian armed forces.

So no, I do not believe that the 20K causality estimate is valid.

Not saying that Ukraine is out and out lying, but armies typically overstate enemy causalities, and understate their own.


72 posted on 04/29/2022 6:11:44 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: pierrem15

I read 50%...ping


73 posted on 04/29/2022 6:13:39 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: PIF
The only trained troops available are the units that were broken up to supply the original invasion forces. But these are needed where they are: mostly facing China and the restless muslim Stans. Withdrawing them means Russia is open to being overrun in the South and Far East.

Let's be perfectly clear about this fact: withdrawing Russia's troops that are facing China means Russia will become China's gas station.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

If Putin doesn't know that by now, he will within hours of pulling troops from facing China.

You know as well as I do who's winning the war in Ukraine: China.

74 posted on 04/29/2022 6:17:39 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: redgolum

They Russians have brought in all sorts of reserves. The original ~200k is out of date.

I have no idea of the real number. But it appears to be easily 5 figures of dead and probably twice that in WIA.


75 posted on 04/29/2022 6:37:15 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: redgolum

“Saudi and Israel are currently on the fence, but make signals they are going to dump us...”

Umm, Syria, Iran, and Lebanon are Russian puppet states. No way the Saudis and Israelis will forget that little fact.


76 posted on 04/29/2022 6:53:58 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Cronos

You have quite an imagination to twist that sentence into your chosen red herring. There is nothing to be gleeful over when the horrific reality of the Syrian refugees, the millions slaughtered, and the devastation of their homes is noted. You are a sick creature to even imagine I would find that evil something to have glee over.


77 posted on 04/29/2022 7:36:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Cronos

I highly agree.


78 posted on 04/29/2022 8:11:23 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: MHGinTN

Mhgintn “Russia will methodically turn UK into a syrianized morqass”

You enjoyed both?


79 posted on 04/29/2022 1:14:56 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

You are spiritually very sick.


80 posted on 04/29/2022 1:25:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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