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Russia turned off the tap. Poland is ready to live without Russian gas
Money.pl ^ | 27 April 2022 | Michael Krawiel

Posted on 04/27/2022 8:37:02 PM PDT by Cronos

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To: Cronos

This is a big risk for Tussia.


21 posted on 04/27/2022 9:01:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: MinorityRepublican

To me it looks like complete wishful thinking in their invasion of Ukraine.

No logistics, no planning.


22 posted on 04/27/2022 9:01:51 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Is Russia going to eat their gas?


23 posted on 04/27/2022 9:02:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

For a Putin supporter, any country that is making themselves independent of Russia’s gas makes them “idiots”


24 posted on 04/27/2022 9:03:07 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: MinorityRepublican

Putin couldn’t wait, he thought Ukraine would be a cakewalk and Russian forces would be back home in time for the May Victory Day celebrations

oops ...


25 posted on 04/27/2022 9:03:34 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: DesertRhino

Not idiots. Energy supply is a massive strategic risk.
Russia is simply an inherently unreliable source, politically.

It is a perpetually, genetically hostile state to Poland and all of Eastern Europe. Nobody should ever have plugged vital infrastructure to Russia. Did you miss the nine outages he mentioned, all of them due to Russia playing politics?

For a utility manager this is simply unacceptable.

Its OK to buy commodities, that can be substituted, from such a failed society, but not things that have to be provided with utter reliability and cannot easily be substituted.

Like the Middle East and Iran and Pakistan, Russia sucks. It will always suck, it is stuck in a vicious historical cycle that it cannot ever escape.


26 posted on 04/27/2022 9:04:51 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Cronos

I saw them doing maneuvers in Belarus. A lot of time to get their logistics in place and set things up to reinforce the assault on Kyiv. They were able to blow things up, all right. But that was about it.


27 posted on 04/27/2022 9:05:15 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Fido969

He’s selling his gas and oil to China and India at a steep discount - and they still aren’t buying that much.


28 posted on 04/27/2022 9:05:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“Is Russia going to eat their gas”?

No, they won’t because they have plenty of wheat and other crops.


29 posted on 04/27/2022 9:08:16 PM PDT by laplata (")
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To: buwaya

Hope you exclude Israel from your ‘middle east sucks’ paradigm


30 posted on 04/27/2022 9:11:00 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: nickcarraway

In Demark, Norway and Poland,they are now constructing the Baltic pipe getting gas from Norway, and it will be in place on the 1st of October. It’s a 10 bcm pipeline so it’s a significant addition.

Floating LNG terminals – floating storage and regasification units – can be installed in a matter of months. And some of them will be there for next winter, in Germany and the Netherlands.

Right now, EU countries are turning back on old coal and oil-fired power plants to ease the pressure from the gas crisis.


31 posted on 04/27/2022 9:11:55 PM PDT by Cronos
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Gas is more than double what it was a year ago, so even at a discount he’s making a killing.

The ruble is solid. That tells you Russia is doing fine.


32 posted on 04/27/2022 9:13:16 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: laplata

You are missing the point. Russia’s economy relies on selling energy resources. They keep shrinking their potential market, and selling at a discount. Very bad for their economy.


33 posted on 04/27/2022 9:13:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: buwaya

Russia proving itself to be an unreliable partner just hastens the move away from Russia.

I hope it moves us to building more nuclear power stations.


34 posted on 04/27/2022 9:14:23 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: buwaya

You have a lot to say about Russians. Most of it stereotypical garbage. Have you ever been there? Do you know any Russians? You from Spain? It sucks big time. Wasn’t for EU drip feed it would be a basket case


35 posted on 04/27/2022 9:14:27 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: buwaya
it is stuck in a vicious historical cycle that it cannot ever escape

Russia could escape that and become a normal country again, there are sensible people there, but it has to first get rid of the murderous gangsters now running things ... and that won't be so easy

one thing for sure, as long as Putin is in charge, Russia will be in a death-spiral


36 posted on 04/27/2022 9:15:25 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Fido969

The rubble is as “solid” as north Korea currency.

Putin’s regime imposed a clampdown, preventing the purchase or sale of foreign currency. They also doubled their interest rates.

If a dictatorship declares afixed exchange rate and cuts off currency trading, you cannot claim that currency to be “stable “


37 posted on 04/27/2022 9:16:56 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Long Jon No Silver; buwaya

Buwayas post was about Russia, the state, not the Russian people. Do re read post 26, he doesn’t comment on the Russian people


38 posted on 04/27/2022 9:18:56 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: canuck_conservative

The trap is that it is not this one gang that is the problem.
The trouble is that such a gang is the inevitable consequence of the social form of Russia. Russia CANNOT ever have a normal government. It is set up such that it has no cultural or psychological defense from predatory gangs. One of these will always come up on top.


39 posted on 04/27/2022 9:22:21 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: canuck_conservative

The trap is that it is not this one gang that is the problem.
The trouble is that such a gang is the inevitable consequence of the social form of Russia. Russia CANNOT ever have a normal government. It is set up such that it has no cultural or psychological defense from predatory gangs. One of these will always come up on top.


40 posted on 04/27/2022 9:22:21 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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