Posted on 04/25/2022 6:40:28 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
I asked how often Russia was the INVADER. So sick of poor wittle Wussia!
1853 Ottoman Empire
1939 Poland
1877 Ottoman Empire
1914 Germany
1920 Poland
1939 Poland
2008 Georgia
2014 Crimea
2022 Ukraine
I’m sure I missed a few.
Finland (Twice)
Japan
Mongolia
China
To add to the list
Awww. I don’t believe that! America wants Russia to be stronger. Much stronger.
We’ve been at war with these guys since the start.
It is hard to draw any conclusion other than NATO elites want a war with Russia. If we didn’t want war, our policy towards Ukraine would probably be much different, to pressure them to settle by offering to transfer sovereignty in Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea (the latter being a fait accompli since 2014).
That may be distasteful and seen as giving too much to a dictator, but I have doubts that those other two regions can now be effectively ruled as part of Ukraine anyway. The loss is significant but not crippling.
If it led to stabilization and the possibility for most Ukrainian refugees to return home, it would surely be a better outcome than rolling the dice on nuclear war, and otherwise I don’t think Ukraine can hope to do much more than to contain Russian forces in the eastern third of their territory with a long drawn-out stalemate. That won’t satisfy Russia either which means there will always be a risk of further escalation from them too.
Why are our elites even toying with a strategy that could lead to a global war? Because they think they can survive it, come out of their shelters, and lead the remnants of the human race into their globalist utopia unopposed at that point. It is a mad scheme, and far worse than what we would have otherwise.
I don’t support or admire Putin. But I also don’t want to face a nuclear war or have any chance of surviving into some globalist future. By the way, I think they miscalculate on several fronts if that’s what they are expecting. When you survey who would be most likely to emerge alive after a nuclear war, it includes all sorts of groups that have no present interest in globalism. For them to dominate all of those groups would then require further acts of madness and wars against countries we have never regarded as enemies.
Our rather daunting task is to break through the groupthink now prevailing and make people realize we are being led around like animals to the slaughter.
Sure, defend Ukraine, but within limits that even Russians will see as reasonable, and keep lines of communication with Russia open. This has not been done especially in the past eighteen months. Even Neville Chamberlain had a better plan than Joe Biden and Boris Johnson seem to have today.
In fact in 1920 Poland attacked Russia and in 2008 Georgia attacked the Russian forces placed as the OSCE peacekeepers in South Ossetia.
“In fact in 1920 Poland attacked Russia…”
God bless them. Too bad that nasty piece of work Uncle Joe screwed the Poles again in ‘39.
Thanks for that well thought out post.
We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine,//////////
Austin is dumber than dirt.
We need a strong Russia whichi will NOT be tempted to use its nuclear capability because of weakness.
Russia needs to be strong but only moderately. Russia needs to rid itself of Putin, This is the secret to keeping Russia moderate and strong.
Putin is the problem.So there needs to be a way to unseat Putin and his alliance within the Russian government.
Thats the key.
Austin is so flawed that he thinks that a nuclear power should be weakened in conventional warfare....NNOT good...stuppid in fact.Then all they have is the nuclear option. But then political animals like Austin have no idea what they SHOULD be doing, because they are so emersed in reimagining the world they live in.
We wish Russia could be moderate and strong, but the reality is that Russia is very corrupt (no different than Ukraine) and still filled with communists who believe in authoritarian control.
Getting rid of Putin will have little positive impact on the structural issues within Russian society.
“… but the reality is that Russia is very corrupt (no different than Ukraine) and still filled with communists who believe in authoritarian control.”
That sounds EXACTLY like the United States.
Payback is a female dog.
I think the difference is that we started from the pure side and Russia started from the corrupt side.
We will meet in the middle for The Great Reset
Yup, and Pooty-Poot will get his sooner or later.
Why would anyone except Russians care about the structural issues within Russian Society?
Putin and his Russia swamp cadre pursue an extra national policy of conquest.
Solution? Putin ands his cadre of Russia swamp creatures have to go.
So you are supporting the policy of regime change.
As far as “weakening Russia”, what about the Ukrainians who suffer, lose their lives and get maimed in the process?
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