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A landmark gun case could change New York’s concealed carry law—or worse (barf alert)
msn ^ | 20 apr 2022 | Talib Visram

Posted on 04/21/2022 9:04:20 AM PDT by rellimpank

Accustomed to relatively strict gun laws, New Yorkers watching mass shootings unfold across other parts of the country in recent years may have felt somewhat invincible to indiscriminate gun violence. April 12 was a wake-up call, when a gunman started shooting at passengers on a subway car in Brooklyn during a morning commute. Now, a landmark Supreme Court case that’s due for a ruling this summer could compound fears of more, similar gun violence in crowded city spaces.

The case, the most significant on the Second Amendment in 14 years, puts into jeopardy New York State’s tight restrictions on carrying guns in public. Based on the direction of justices’ questions during oral arguments last fall, it appears likely that the conservative court will strike them down as unconstitutional as early as June, forcing the state to drop public safety regulations, and possibly to start issuing concealed carry permits. While there’s no database that tracks gun crimes by concealed permit holders, more mass shootings do tend to occur in states with more relaxed gun laws, including permissive carry rights. The ruling could also have broader implications for other states’ gun regulations.

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1 posted on 04/21/2022 9:04:20 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
Accustomed to relatively strict gun laws, New Yorkers watching mass shootings unfold across other parts of the country in recent years may have felt somewhat invincible to indiscriminate gun violence.

What planet is this person from?

2 posted on 04/21/2022 9:05:32 AM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: rellimpank
While there’s no database that tracks gun crimes by concealed permit holders,

The usual lie. There is no *national* database.

There are several state data bases.

Those show that concealed permit holders are exceptionally law abiding, much more so than police officers.

The left has no compunction about lying.

3 posted on 04/21/2022 9:09:10 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: rellimpank

I bet the crowded space becomes much more civilized, actually


4 posted on 04/21/2022 9:12:40 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: rellimpank

One cannot expect much truth from PMSNBC.


5 posted on 04/21/2022 9:12:40 AM PDT by exnavy (we are not a democracy.)
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To: frogjerk

“What planet is this person from?”

He’s from that land of unicorns and rainbows called ‘New York City’. Not the real NYC, but the one that exists in the liberal bubble.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/talib-visram-journalist

I found him living in a rather tony $953,000 apartment in Brooklyn, NY. So yes, he’s in the bubble.


6 posted on 04/21/2022 9:14:03 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: rellimpank

Is this the end of the SAFE Act?


7 posted on 04/21/2022 9:16:45 AM PDT by immadashell (New Planned Parenthood slogan: Black Babies’ Lives Don't Matter!c)
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To: rellimpank

this is moronic...…

NYC has strict gun laws...…

yet, people are shot on the street damn near every day....

so.....keeping these strict gun laws ion place will solve the problem.....

what an idiot


8 posted on 04/21/2022 9:19:17 AM PDT by wny ( )
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To: marktwain

—yep—biding formerly from Wisconsin , I’ve been curious about experience there , after the Scott Walker upgrade of the carry laws -

-have never seen one and suspect it doesn’t get any publicity from the Madison and Milwaukee rags because the experience would be exactly like Texas and Florida—

-that the permittees are among the most law abiding group that can be found—


9 posted on 04/21/2022 9:19:20 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: frogjerk

NYC 2021: More than 1800 gunshot victims in 1500 incidents.

The author doesn’t know the news from his own city, or just lies.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/25/surge-in-nyc-shootings-in-2021-blamed-on-reforms-as-eric-adams-vows-action/


10 posted on 04/21/2022 9:19:36 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: immadashell

Doubt it- seems it’s more about concealed carry than it is about restrictions to rifles that ny unconstitutionally passed


11 posted on 04/21/2022 9:26:50 AM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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To: jjotto
If a leftist writer would tell the truth about guns and gun laws, they would be destroyed by the ideological gatekeepers in their world.

They *must* lie to survive. After a while, lying becomes natural and accepted.

12 posted on 04/21/2022 9:28:51 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: wny

Themleft are falsely arguing that repealing it will,cause major spike in crime. That is how they rammed through their safe act, claiming it was an emergency measure to quell mass shootings- it did not, but they will argue that it did, and since a negative can’t be proved, then theynwill,get awY with claiming it.

I seriousoy,doubt crime went down one bit after they restricted rifles to,7 shots and banned grips and other “weapons of war” looking parts, but they Wil. Claim that their measures caused the violence to “level off” and that violence “woild,have been worse if they hadn’t e acted the safe act”-

.iberals have an answer for everything- they ignore the facts though.


13 posted on 04/21/2022 9:31:41 AM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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To: marktwain

If the press could find one Completely unjustified Shooting, I E blatant murder such as a drive-by,, let alone some mass shooting by someone with a permit I’m sure that would be plastered all over the news.


14 posted on 04/21/2022 9:37:16 AM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: rellimpank
The case, the most significant on the Second Amendment in 14 years, puts into jeopardy New York State’s tight restrictions on carrying guns in public.

These people don't even know how stupid they are. They are that lacking in self awareness. They write stupid things, and don't even realize it. Amazing.
15 posted on 04/21/2022 9:37:40 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: rickomatic
I read the article. The writer has to resort to Orwellian terms like "Gun Violence". The term was invented to conflate suicides and homicides.

Then, she ignores total illicit homicides to obsess over gun homicides. But, the person killed does not see that difference as crucial. They are still dead. If gun laws do not decrease total illicit homicides, they do not serve a useful purpose.

This is likely all beyond the world view of the author. She simply sees "guns are bad" and creates a narrative to reinforce that view.

16 posted on 04/21/2022 9:43:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: rellimpank

WTF! I guess they just write this crap and do not have to actually report the news. They already know what is really happening in their dream world.


17 posted on 04/21/2022 9:45:16 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: rellimpank

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED


18 posted on 04/21/2022 10:47:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: rellimpank
Just the other day we stopped,while on our way down to NYC,in Greenwich,Connecticut. It's a suburb of NYC,about 45 minutes from Grand Central by commuter rail. To call it breathtakingly wealthy would be to damn it with faint praise.

That town,and suburban towns like it,is where the editors and writers for the NY Times live. And apart from a Kennedy murdering a 15 year old girl with an expensive golf club they don't see violent crime in towns like that.

They can afford to consider the 2nd Amendment to be null and void.

19 posted on 04/21/2022 10:57:00 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: rellimpank
more mass shootings do tend to occur in states with more relaxed gun laws

Like Arizona or New Hampshire? What a load od BS and LIES. What this country really needs is Common Sense Regulations and Licensing for Commercial Speech for compensation or gain while using a High Capacity Transmission Device3, then presstututes like this could be Criminally Prosecuted for their LIES to the Public
20 posted on 04/21/2022 12:26:22 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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