Posted on 04/17/2022 2:24:19 AM PDT by caww
Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
So the spirit of an open form was forum was ruined by a poster who pointed out a quote that denied a physical resurection in place of a metaphysical oppornunist who used that reasoning as a club to wield political activism.
More reason why our society is screwed up, can’t even call out falsehoods/bad decision processes. Let lies proceed i guess, don’t want to offend in the face of warped theology.
What part of celebration of the Risen Christ do you not understand? You should have posted to the reigious forum if you wanted to debate an issue....and you certainly understood what this thread was intended for. So your excuses aren’t holding water.
Correct . . . which shows that their is a huge difference between “believing” in Jesus and being “saved.” No one was saved in the Old Testament which included the lion’s share of the gospels until the resurrection.
Paul tells us that the “gospel” is found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
Sure they were saved in the old testament - Abraham was saved by faith and those like him of the household of faith. The Just shall live by faith as is written. ...and they believed.
“Caesar, in Pilate, on the other hand, violently disputes the claim. He has set his seal of approval on Jesus death, and now he guarantees it with troops. Secured by security forces. When the seal is broken in the resurrection, it stands among the signs that the power of the powers (death in all its forms) has been broken. The dominion of political authorityespecially inflated, aggressiveand imperial authority has been cut to the heart.”
Close. In Pilate, Caesar said, as he washed his hands, “I find no fault with this man, but — here — you Judean rabble go do whatever your Judean rabble hearts want, and leave me out of it. You want to kill an innocent man over your benighted religion — whatever.” So, not an official approval; just the absence of an official veto.
Unlike Pilate’s capitulation, the seal on the tomb was nothing to do with approving Jesus’ death, and everything to do with preventing human meddlers from perpetrating a resurrection hoax; NOT because Pilate really cared so much, but because it was a no-fuss way for him to get this Sanhedrin bunch to shut up and move off this Jesus kick.
Of course, the resurrection was no hoax, and no mere human meddler who broke the seal perpetrating it, as the terror-stricken guards testified. So, now there’s Pilate, left with Jesus’ words to him echoing in his head, “You would have no power over me had it not been given you from above.” The empty tomb, opened by an angel in defiance of his governmental authority, was certainly an emphatic coda to that.
Amen.
Good summary of the “legal seal” on the tomb. The movie “Risen” (a good Easter movie) depicts this.
The full Resurrection services of the Orthodox and Western liturgical churches (Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran) are truly celebrations of civil disobedience, with scriptures from Exodus 12 and Daniel 3, all culminating with the violation of the Imperial seal.
Makes one wonder why most of them cowered in compliance two years ago during the CCP cootie lockdowns.
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