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To: ought-six

...the Eastern half of Ukraine has always been part of the Rus peoples territory...


86 posted on 04/20/2022 7:15:19 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Steven Tyler

“...the Eastern half of Ukraine has always been part of the Rus peoples territory...”

Not true at all.

The eastern part of what is now Ukraine was mostly Kazar. The Rus, and in particular the Kievan Rus were west and northwest of that area.


87 posted on 04/21/2022 4:28:27 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Steven Tyler

Then why did Russia sign away sovereignty and border rights to Ukraine in 1994?


103 posted on 04/23/2022 4:37:06 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Steven Tyler
Er.. nope

The Rus peoples arose in the 9th centuries when the East Slavic tribes invited the Rurikids to rule over them and formed the Rus.

Prior to that, it was Khazar and prior to that, Iranic speaking Sarmatian and prior to that Iranic speaking Scythian territories. Not to mention parts that were East Germanic tribes, Greek city states, etc. etc.

And after the Rus coalesced, then most of the coastal areas were not Slavic but various TurkiC tribes

Not even in 1400 AD do we see "part of the Rus people's territory"

Your "always" seems to date from 1750 onwards

180 posted on 12/18/2023 6:55:49 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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